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Old 11-11-2010, 03:41 AM
 
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Pilgrimage (Hajj) to Makkah is an obligation once a life for muslims who are able to perform it.

It is the largest pilgrimage in history.

The month of “tho el hejja” is when Hajj is done according to Islamic calendar.

What do you know about its origin ?
Why did God order us to do this ?
What does this rites mean to muslims ?
Do you know that millions of muslims are now in Holy lands preparing for the journey of peace, forgiveness, repentance and that bring happiness to every muslim ?

Mecca was a barren desert.

Who is the first person who dwell there, here the messanger Muhammad (pbbuh) said to us (as mentioned in Sahih Bukhari ):

Abraham brought her ( Hajjar ) and her son Ishmael while she was suckling him, to a place near the Ka'ba under a tree on the spot of Zam-zam, at the highest place in the mosque.

During those days there was nobody in Mecca, nor was there any water So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water,

(Abraham) set out homeward. Ishmael's mother followed him saying, "O Abraham! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?" She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her Then she asked him, "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said, "Yes." She said, "Then He will not neglect us," and returned

while Abraham proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniya where they could not see him, he raised both hands, invoked Allah saying
the following prayers:
'O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Your Sacred House (Kaba at Mecca) in order, O our Lord, that they may offer prayer perfectly. So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allah) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.' (14.37)

Ishmael's mother went on suckling Ishmael and drinking from the water (she had).

-we can notice here the meaning of “submission” or “islam” to God will in Hajjar reaction. She didn’t complain or ragged. She knew she is a *** has to obey God orders.

- Abraham as a father and husband, it was painful for him to leave them, yet he didn’t hesitate to do what he was ordered to do.
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:40 PM
 
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[The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakka full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings.] (Quran 3:93)






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Old 11-11-2010, 03:46 PM
 
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So why is it that Muslims worship a building? And what is so special about that particular building?
No disrespect intended, just seeking knowledge.
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Old 11-11-2010, 05:19 PM
 
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One major problem we would have is believing that Abraham (of both the Old Testament and the Quran) ever existed.

Abraham as a metaphor or being the Father of All nations represents the commonality of all people being related to one another.

Second problem: with your explanation (among myriad others about Islam), you reinforce that Islam is both a "Me-" religion and a "Feel Good" religion.

The same can be said about Christianity in a great deal of cases.

To dilute what I mean to the simplest terms, any time there is a "gotta do" requirement attached to religion, the real bottom line is for the individual to build up "heavenly" brownie points in order to earn some kind of "heavenly" reward.

The requirement to perform a Hajj, put one's head to the mat "x" number of times a day, the purification rites, and all that as somehow showing God (Allah) just how much you love him does not lead an individual to be really loving or in fellowship with one's brothers and sisters sharing and occupying this world.

It is all show, much the way the Jewish religious hierarchy of Jesus' day used to show off just how righteous and holy they were. It is all show, much the same way that certain Christians dress up in finery, sit in the "expensive" pews, have their names "in lights" as the highest donators, and put on airs as if they have been "sealed" by the Holy Spirit and can not condensate on the "less fortunate."

The Christian oft claims that God is not fooled. It is true in Islam as well: Allah is not fooled.

Despite all the hype of the "gotta do" requirements espoused and encouraged by all the imams around the world, Allah cannot really be all that happy with his "people," because they still haven't got the message.

The Jews didn't get the message, and the Christians still don't get the message. And now the Muslims have joined the people "of the book" in not getting the message.

There is no "gotta do" in God's religion. There is either a "wanna" or a "don't wanna." The "wanna" is loving one another regardless of just how much of an a--hole the other person is. The "wanna" is loving another person regardless of the situation, even when it is blowing a hole in that person's head before they put one in yours.

Allah, like the Christian God and the Jewish God, is more pleased with a person whose heart and mind is people-centered and tries to live a selfless love towards other people, not because of all the "good works" a person has been saving up in the Bank of Heaven with the promise of a down payment on a huge mansion-like dwelling close to the great throneroom (or even just the castle) of God.
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:34 PM
 
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There is no "gotta do" in God's religion. There is either a "wanna" or a "don't wanna." The "wanna" is loving one another regardless of just how much of an a--hole the other person is. The "wanna" is loving another person regardless of the situation, even when it is blowing a hole in that person's head before they put one in yours.

Allah, like the Christian God and the Jewish God, is more pleased with a person whose heart and mind is people-centered and tries to live a selfless love towards other people, not because of all the "good works" a person has been saving up in the Bank of Heaven with the promise of a down payment on a huge mansion-like dwelling close to the great throneroom (or even just the castle) of God.
Good post... and I'll just add here that people either "wanna" receive God's Divine Love in their souls brought by the Holy Spirit, or they "don't wanna." But when you got it... loving people is effortless and you don't need to worry about helping others, you just do it, because the love that's in your soul then is the same as God's. So the best days of the year are the days... not traveling on any particular day to any particular city whatsoever... but every day that our soul is open to receive this awesome gift from our Father. Rest assured, God's love for each and everyone of us, His children, knows no limits. Blessings.
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:59 PM
 
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Is thread referring to one of those annual events where hundreds of people end up trampled to death in some sort of surge?
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:29 PM
 
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So why is it that Muslims worship a building? And what is so special about that particular building?
No disrespect intended, just seeking knowledge.



they do not worship the building
and that building is the house of Allah.
and it was built by prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael peace be upon them more than 4000 years ago.
and the muslims worship Allah by walking around his house seven times
and the name of the building is Alkaaba.
and it is located in the holy city Makkah and another name for Makkah is Bakka
and Bakka is the name that is mentioned in the Quran
also Bakka was mentioned in the Bible.
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:08 PM
 
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it was built by prophet Abraham and his son Ishmael peace be upon them more than 4000 years ago.
It was only 3941 years ago.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:00 PM
 
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the golden station is called the station of prophet abraham peace be upon him

inside the station is a glass cover

inside the glass cover is a rock

in the rock is the footprint of prophet Abrahim

when the prophet was building the house of Allah (Alkaaba) and the building became high then he needed some thing to stand on it so he used the rock and Allah made the Rock soft under his feet and his feet sank in the rock makining the feetprint Until today, one can see the impressions of the feet of Ibrahim on that rock.





when the building got more higher then the rock is lifted and worked as an elevator for the prophet until he finished building the Alkaaba.
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:28 PM
 
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So you go there to worship the supposed footprint of a prophet?
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