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Old 11-18-2010, 10:40 AM
 
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Allah is perfect.
No.

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The Quran is perfect.
No.

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read the verse again
No.

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the verse says " the frailest of all houses is the spider's house"
It's not a house. So much for the Koran being 'perfect'.

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and not "the flimsiest threads".

The spider's home remains to be the weakest and frailest of all homes despite its strong threads.
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:27 AM
 
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Since this thread was started, I am inspired to ask the following question (which would not have occurred to me otherwise): does Qu'ran distinguish between spiders and women?
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:12 PM
 
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a nest is a house for the bird
the web is a house for the spider

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Old 11-18-2010, 06:42 PM
 
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Allah is perfect.
Well now, that's debatable, Allah is no more perfect than the Christian God and both of them have their faults.

The Quran is perfect.
Any book that is written by man, whether it's sacred or not, is not perfect. It's subject to the opinions and beliefs of the individual writing it, so it's not perfect.

read the verse again
I really have no need to read the verse again to understand it.

the verse says " the frailest of all houses is the spider's house"
well to begin with a spider does not have a house, it has a web and the web is used as a trap, which seems you have fallen into.

and not "the flimsiest threads".
The threads of a spider's web of many times stronger than that of steel and that's a proven fact that your sacred book cannot tell you.

The spider's home remains to be the weakest and frailest of all homes despite its strong threads.
Again, as I said, a spider does not have a home it has a web.


Your sacred book is very antiquated as well is your religion, it's time to come into the 21st century and civilization.
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:43 PM
 
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The spider's home remains to be the weakest and frailest of all homes despite its strong threads.

interesting...

Would you say that is because the spider is left vulnerable from all angles and all the elements, similar to the way someone who does not believe in Allah (or God) is left vulnerable to the temtpations & evils of this world?

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Old 11-18-2010, 06:50 PM
 
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a nest is a house for the bird
the web is a house for the spider
No the web is not a house...It is the means a spider uses to trap it's food.
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Old 11-18-2010, 07:37 PM
 
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A spider's web is the weakest of all houses. It is composed of a group of intricate fine silk threads, mostly with large gaps in-between. However, the spider's silk is one of the strongest substances available on earth, as it can withstand a tension force up to 42000 kg/cm2 which gives it strong stretching abilities. This feature enables it to trap prey insects without being ruptured. Hence, this explains why Allah (SWT) said in his noble book " the frailest (weakest) of houses" instead of "the flimsiest threads". The spider's home remains to be the weakest and frailest of all homes despite its strong threads.The spider's house & The Muslim's house
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Old 11-18-2010, 08:03 PM
 
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Thank you for the clarification. Very interesting indeed, and makes perfect sense. It is nice to learn new things.
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:51 AM
 
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A spider's web is the weakest of all houses. It is composed of a group of intricate fine silk threads, mostly with large gaps in-between. However, the spider's silk is one of the strongest substances available on earth, as it can withstand a tension force up to 42000 kg/cm2 which gives it strong stretching abilities. This feature enables it to trap prey insects without being ruptured. Hence, this explains why Allah (SWT) said in his noble book "… the frailest (weakest) of houses" instead of "the flimsiest threads". The spider's home remains to be the weakest and frailest of all homes despite its strong threads.The spider's house & The Muslim's house

For the last time, it is NOT A HOUSE...


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Old 11-19-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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................., but it shall not stand; he shall hold it fast, but it shall not endure."* The house of the spider is her web, which she spreads to catch the heedless fly, where she lives, and rears her young.............
Illustrations of the Holy Scriptures ... - Google Books
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