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Old 12-19-2010, 08:13 PM
 
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In the name of Allah most Gracious ,Most Merciful
"Had the truth followed their desires,the heavens,and the earth and everything therein would have been corrupted.Nay! we have brought them their reminder,but they turn away from it".
Yes we do because we have our own way and we don't want your way.

but thats what people do who need to believe they have the only truth... Just fall back to quoting ayats and verses.....
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:14 PM
 
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Do u agree that as humans we do wrong things ?
Eveybody can have a belief,but is it right?If eveybody was right,God wouldn't have sent prophets to show the truth and the right path.And the final message was sent to Guide the people to the right path.
Humans are not perfect and we fail and we each have our way to move forward from our shortcomings. We do not need your guide...
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:14 PM
 
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Do u agree with me that there is right and wrong in life.There is good and evil.If so,It is clear that we can CHOSE our own path but we have to chose the right one because there is good and evil.In other countries people worship animals and they say this is our belife.They chose that path but obviously it is not right.


Eveybody can have a belief,but is it right?If eveybody was right,God wouldn't have sent prophets to show the truth and the right path.And the final message was sent to Guide the people to the right path.
There is right and wrong in life, but who is to determine that, if not the individual who is able to make that choice for himself. If an individual does not believe in a particular religion then why would you want to force them to do so, they would have no respect for that belief and their belief would not be true. Is it not better to let that individual make their own choice as to how or who they wish to believe in. Your religion (Islam) has only been around for 1500 years, you are but an infant compared to my cultural belief that has been in existence for 100,000 years. My Creator has been around longer than your Allah, my Creator is your Allah and I am traveling the path to my Creator that is true for me.

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Old 12-19-2010, 08:16 PM
 
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Do u agree with me that there is right and wrong in life.There is good and evil.If so,It is clear that we can CHOSE our own path but we have to chose the right one because there is good and evil.In other countries people worship animals and they say this is our belife.They chose that path but obviously it is not right.


Eveybody can have a belief,but is it right?If eveybody was right,God wouldn't have sent prophets to show the truth and the right path.And the final message was sent to Guide the people to the right path.
such arrogance... To say you have the only truth. You don't. You are right we do choose our paths but you do not have the only truth. You have the truth as you see it.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:22 PM
 
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I spend 2 years learning about and being around muslims.... No Thank You...
I know all I want to know....

Any religion that thinks it has the only truth is a BAD religion and ought to be avoided.
Do u agree that there is a judgment day where the creator will judge us all ?
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:26 PM
 
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Do u agree that there is a judgment day where the creator will judge us all ?
I do not have the belief system of a Muslim or a Christian. My beliefs are not anything like yours.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:31 PM
 
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Do u agree that there is a judgment day where the creator will judge us all ?
there is no such thing as a judgment day, that is a belief that has been made up by both Christians and Muslims in order to control their members.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:34 PM
 
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There is right and wrong in life, but who is to determine that, if not the individual who is able to make that choice for himself. If an individual does not believe in a particular religion then why would you want to force them to do so, they would have no respect for that belief and their belief would not be true. Is it not better to let that individual make their own choice as to how or who they wish to believe in. Your religion (Islam) has only been around for 1500 years, you are but an infant compared to my cultural belief that has been in existence for 100,000 years. My Creator has been around longer than your Allah, my Creator is your Allah and I am traveling the path to my Creator that is true for me.
I am not here to force u to accept Islam or anyone else.U had the choice to ignore my thread if u didn't wanna, read it and pass by. However u chose to discuss which one is right and which one is wrong.

And if there is no judjment day,everybody would have opressed the other.We will all be judged whether we like it or not. In our life as humans,when someone steals, he is judged in the court.And some people are judged without juictice. Samething is going to happen after death but it is going to be by Allah with justice.

Do u have a book for your belief that u can say this is from the creator?
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:48 PM
 
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I am not here to force u to accept Islam or anyone else.U had the choice to ignore my thread if u didn't wanna, read it and pass by. However u chose to discuss which one is right and which one is wrong.

And if there is no judjment day,everybody would have opressed the other.We will all be judged whether we like it or not. In our life as humans,when someone steals, he is judged in the court and sometimes without justice. Something is going to happen after death but it is going to be by Allah with justice.

Do u have a book for your belief that u can say this is from the creator?
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Why is it that Muslims and Christians seem to think that you have to have your beliefs written in a sacred book. My belief is written on my heart and my spirit, I need no sacred book for my belief and it has been that way among my culture for hundreds of thousands of years. Your sacred books are written by man and are subject to all the fallacies of Man.

In my culture we are judged by our peers and we are judged on how we treat others in this lifetime, not in the next.
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:03 PM
 
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Why is it that Muslims and Christians seem to think that you have to have your beliefs written in a sacred book. My belief is written on my heart and my spirit, I need no sacred book for my belief and it has been that way among my culture for hundreds of thousands of years. Your sacred books are written by man and are subject to all the fallacies of Man.

In my culture we are judged by our peers and we are judged on how we treat others in this lifetime, not in the next.
Prophet Muhammed peice and blessing be upon him didn't say I am bringing u a book that is from me.It is a book from the creator and whatever he heard from the creator,it is in the Quran.Also,the Quran and prophet Muhammed peice and blessing be upon him talked about everything good and treating others good.Never I should lie.Never I should steal.I should give and help the poor.All in the Quran and the Sunna.And there is no fallacies in the Quran.When a human write a book,u will find mistakes.But the Quran has no mistakes because it is from Allah.

Just wondering if u were right,why did the creator send prophets peice and blessing be upon them ?
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