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Old 12-27-2010, 10:43 AM
 
Location: OKC
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can i do the same with catholic priests in vatican who used to molest children
can i conclude the teaching of catholic by looking at such examples of priests !
You can conclude something about Catholicism by the actions of the Catholics.


The same is true about Islam. Islam isn't what's in the Koran, it's how the Muslims practice and interpret it.

The problem for many people in the U.S. is that we identify Islam with the cultures of Saudi Arabia and Taliban Afghanistan, not with Beirut in the 70's, Modern Turkey, or Indonesia.

The description of Islam used by the U.S. posters here are of a strict Salafi Saudi Arabian culture, but not at all what one may find in a place like Malaysia.
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Old 12-27-2010, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Dubai
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Ignorance and hate are so evident here
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yes it is
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Old 12-27-2010, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Dubai
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No, he really didn't. Take the one about the kid studying all sorts of things versus the kid studying the koran...that second child is learning fairy tales and being told they're true, versus the kid who studies all sorts of things and learns to use critical thinking skills, deductive reasoning, and the scientific method to learn what is real and what are delusions. Sad, very sad to stunt a child's brain by teaching them that myths are real.

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you maybe think that the Quran is just a religion book
Quran include things about health, marriage, divorce, money, war and too much things which you cant imagin... I read many things in bible and some of it like what a Quran have >> and me as Muslim still reading what the similarities this two book have ... of corse it not a shame to do it .. that how we got a knowledge
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Dubai
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I think this cartoon more accurately depicts the Muslim-Israel difference:

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That's Funny
Palestine don't have any army to defend it self
and Israel first target is the children
>> this pic don't make any different
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Dubai
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Ok for the first point I see this opprission because there are natural things that people can't change because God made them like that.And,I am sorry about your friend and I hope him to be always better.

In Islam women don't even have to work if she doesn't to.Moreover,the husband has to spend money on her and the family with respecting her.There is an old saying which I think is funny"what is mine is mine and what is his is mine too"



For the second point yes she is mostly with someone of her family to protect her.When she is protected,that doesn't mean oppressions because that is what is good for her.

And that is why she needs protection:

Every 2 minutes, someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted.

Here's the math. According to the U.S. Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey -- the country's largest and most reliable crime study -- there were 248,300 sexual assaults in 2007 (the most recent data available).
There are 525,600 minutes in a non-leap year. That makes 31,536,000 seconds/year. So, 31,536,000 divided by 248,300 comes out to 1 sexual assault every 127 seconds, or about 1 every 2 minutes

http://www.rainn.org/statistics

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very good point
Shokran
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:13 AM
 
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That's Funny
Palestine don't have any army to defend it self
and Israel first target is the children
>> this pic don't make any different
I don't think there is anything funny about it. Hamas does not have fighters?
When children are hit by bombs and missiles it is usually because Hamas has placed weapons inside or under their houses. Inside hospitals and schools.
Nothing funny about that.
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Dubai
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But you must remember, Islamic men are cowards....what we call sissies. they cannot trust their own men to treat a woman with respect or consideration. they cannot trust their women to not run away as soon as they get the chance. Muslim men don't escort women for the women's safety or protection. They do it because they, themselves are not strong or confident men. They know their women would leave them if the women had half a chance. The only time they are "strong" is when the woman is being condemned and then they can hide behind the koran and torture and kill the woman. Like bullies everywhere, they hide and wet themselves when confronted with a real man.....or even a strong independent woman.
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hah .... Islamic men are not cowards and you approvd that you dont respect any one ... in thiss threat we are talking and descassing the problem together , but you over angry now by saying si****s...
and that show how less respectfull you are ... no need for bad words please !
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Dubai
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If I were a Muslim woman living in a Muslim country, I would be afraid to give honest answers in any sort of poll about oppression under Islamic regimes.

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I'm a Muslim girl >> 21 years old
and I never ever lies about my religion
>>> woow that mean you lie !!
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:36 AM
 
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I don't think there is anything funny about it. Hamas does not have fighters?
When children are hit by bombs and missiles it is usually because Hamas has placed weapons inside or under their houses. Inside hospitals and schools.
Nothing funny about that.
You must be confused


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0AZY...eature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX5Dsu8MDP4



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVY4N...eature=related
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Old 12-27-2010, 11:41 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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I need your oppinion at the end


Very good points to consider.
This is my response:
The nun example. In the US a woman can decide to be a nun or not so she is not mandated to wear the clothes expected for a nun to wear. As far as I know a muslim lady will be punished in some form if she does not want to wear the clothing required of her. If she doe not want to wear it, can she freely leave the country? What are the conequences if she tries to flee the country for not conforming to dress standards? How is she going to be treated by her family and the community for not conforming?

The stay at home mom. In the US a woman has the choice to stay at home or not. A muslim woman IS EXPECTED to stay at home. If she does not want to, what are the consequences?

The university example. I do not think this is the case. If some university attempted I need to know and also know the reason behind such decision. Until then I could reply.

The child learning examples. Parents have the right to decide how to raise their kids. Both children can be good and productive citizens as far as I am concerned.

As far as sacrifice for others. To me that is subjective. Both sides claim the same regarding their own political and religious views.

The rest are very subjective comments. The bottom line is this as I see it. Muslims do have the same types of perceptions the OP is accusing western people of doing. Are the comments on western views from Muslim leaders correct? Are we not called infidels? Are we not also accused of crimes against others? Are muslims not getting the news from state controlled media? Are the news media in their countries totally objective?
The same points inferred on westerners on the OP message also do apply on muslims.

I spent six months in Saudi Arabia and did see how women can be punished for not wearing the proper clothing. I actually saw the morality police driving out there to enforce clothing standards on women. They better be wearing the proper clothing because if not I feel sorry for them.

On both sides there are extremist. On both sides there are people that believe all they are told. On both sides there are good people also. On both sides there are people that do not care fo life.

This is all I have to say, take care.
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