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Old 01-18-2011, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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Quran, referring to our politicians, you said,

"The way they spend money does not look like they really care what Americans think. You only have two parties and they are both controlled by corporations and both have identical foreign policy and they don't seem that different."

I believe our politicians care very much what we think. They represent us very well. If they irritate us, we vote them out, as you saw in our election a few months ago.

The reason our foreign policy does not change much is, in my opinion, because most Americans approve of our current foreign policy. We approved of George Bush's foreign policy and re-elected him in 2004. I did not expect our foreign policy to change after Obama was elected, and it hasn't.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Quran, referring to our politicians, you said,

"The way they spend money does not look like they really care what Americans think. You only have two parties and they are both controlled by corporations and both have identical foreign policy and they don't seem that different."

I believe our politicians care very much what we think. They represent us very well. If they irritate us, we vote them out, as you saw in our election a few months ago.

The reason our foreign policy does not change much is, in my opinion, because most Americans approve of our current foreign policy. We approved of George Bush's foreign policy and re-elected him in 2004. I did not expect our foreign policy to change after Obama was elected, and it hasn't.
Sure should have some changes in the foreign policy over Lebanon, or, of course, Sudan. The wealth itself may be christian valued by the instant competition idea. Obama expects trust uncertainly in the new economic properties.
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Old 01-24-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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can you imagine the concequences if someone slander someone who are more sensitive for billions of muslims than their mothers and themselfs !

we can't ignore the consequences of that
Elwill, you have mentioned several times that hate speech has consequences. I thought of your comment when I read the following story in the Washington Post today.

N.Y. Muslims fear congressman's hearings could inflame Islamophobia

To summarize, it is about a mosque in New York. After the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, the leaders of the mosque made a comment saying that Israel may be to blame.

Well, that comment led to consequences. Many people have turned against the Muslims. Their congressman Peter King is pushing for a congressional hearing to see if the Mosques are teaching people to be terrorists.

Even in America, hate speech has consequences.
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Old 01-25-2011, 02:53 AM
 
Location: Right here; Right now
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Elwill, you have mentioned several times that hate speech has consequences. I thought of your comment when I read the following story in the Washington Post today.

N.Y. Muslims fear congressman's hearings could inflame Islamophobia

To summarize, it is about a mosque in New York. After the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, the leaders of the mosque made a comment saying that Israel may be to blame.

Well, that comment led to consequences. Many people have turned against the Muslims. Their congressman Peter King is pushing for a congressional hearing to see if the Mosques are teaching people to be terrorists.

Even in America, hate speech has consequences.
I'd rep you, but it wouldn't let me. Great post, good point.
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Old 01-25-2011, 07:32 AM
 
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Their congressman Peter King is pushing for a congressional hearing to see if the Mosques are teaching people to be terrorists.

Even in America, hate speech has consequences.
mosques have been teaching terrorism for years. there have been several documentries on it. they will preach peace on camera to women, then preach hate off camera to men. its nothing new. it will only get worse. we will remain pc and tip toe around the subject.
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Old 01-25-2011, 09:40 AM
 
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I'd rep you, but it wouldn't let me. Great post, good point.
Thank you, Acton.
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