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Old 01-13-2011, 11:04 AM
 
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al Nawawi wrote: “A number of scholars discovered many hadith’s in the collections of Muslim and Bukhari which do not fulfill the conditions of verification assumed by these men.” The collectors attach a greater weight to the trustworthiness of the narrators. Their criterion was certainly valuable, but it was not sufficient. In our opinion the criterion for hadith criticism’s as well as standard for materials concerning the prophet life, is the one which prophet himself gave. He said: After I am gone differences will arise among you. Compare whatever is reported to be mine with the book of God; that which agrees therewith you may accept as having come from me; that which disagrees you will reject as fabrication.
The Hadiths are an important part of Islam.

Sunni Muslims, who make up around 90% of the world's Muslim population, consider Bukhari, for example, to be the second most authentic Islamic book after the Quran.

In any religion, if the majority of it's followers believe that something is a part of that religion, then it is, as religion is all about belief. So that means that the six major Hadiths are Islamic, as the majority of Muslims believe in them.

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Old 05-10-2011, 12:51 AM
 
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So you saying that Muhammed was the Johnny Depp of his era?
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:54 AM
 
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................ a man who is handsome, of glowing countenance, and of good proportions, with neither a large stomach nor a small head.

He is smart of appearance, with balanced features, deep black eyes, and long eyelashes.

His voice is not coarse.

He has a long neck, a full rounded beard, and thick eyebrows that meet each other.

When he is silent, he is stately and composed, and when he speaks, his appearance is impressive.

“He is the most beautiful and striking man from a distance and the best and most beautiful from close up.

He is well spoken, clear in what he says, saying neither too much nor too little, his words flowing forth like a perfect string of pearls.

“He is neither too tall nor overly short, a stately man in the company of two other stately men (one of them was Abu Bakr RA), and he is the most prominent among them and the most well-respected.

“He has companions who surround him. If he speaks, they listen to him, and if he commands, they hasten to fulfill his command.

He is well served and attended, though he is neither stern nor argumentative.”
So you saying Muhammed was like Johnny Depp?


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Old 05-10-2011, 01:18 AM
 
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The description of the final prophet Muhamed peace and blessing of Allah be upon him
a man who is handsome, of glowing countenance, and of good proportions, with neither a large stomach nor a small head.
He is smart of appearance, with balanced features, deep black eyes, and long eyelashes.
His voice is not coarse.
He has a long neck, a full rounded beard, and thick eyebrows that meet each other.
When he is silent, he is stately and composed, and when he speaks, his appearance is impressive.
“He is the most beautiful and striking man from a distance and the best and most beautiful from close up.
He is well spoken, clear in what he says, saying neither too much nor too little, his words flowing forth like a perfect string of pearls.
“He is neither too tall nor overly short, a stately man in the company of two other stately men (one of them was Abu Bakr RA), and he is the most prominent among them and the most well-respected.
“He has companions who surround him. If he speaks, they listen to him, and if he commands, they hasten to fulfill his command.
He is well served and attended, though he is neither stern nor argumentative.”
One thing that puzzles me ... Why would he create a rule against drawing his picture (the old world version of a photograph) if he was extremely attractive? Seems that he'd be kinda ugly if he didn't want anyone drawing pictures of him. Or am I just missing the point completely?

Ugly or attractive, neither one makes a man a prophet. But it is interesting if the description is accurate. There is a tendency for people who follow any man as their spiritual leader to wear some super-thick rose-colored glasses, so it does make it impossible to know for sure if he was super good looking or whatever.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:41 AM
 
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The problem with a description of Muhammed is that it is attributed to Alī ibn Abī Ṭālib, who actually left nothing in writing.
The first documentation is Ishaq's, Sirat Rasual Allah, written 125 years after the fact.

There is nothing to prove Muhammed himself even existed at all, with the first mention of him 60 years to late, and he is mentioned as "The Mahood", a title and not a proper name. A titla shared by Jesus, Joseph, Mary, and the 5th Calief, Malick.
The first documentation's do not even come from muslim sources, but rather Christian, and says nothing of Islam, muslims, the Qur'an, but refers to the invaders as, "The Godless pagans".
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:42 AM
 
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People fail to accept that Islam, as it is now, comes from the 9th century, not the 7th as claimed, and all previous history is pure fabrication.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:56 AM
 
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The Hadiths are an important part of Islam.

Sunni Muslims, who make up around 90% of the world's Muslim population, consider Bukhari, for example, to be the second most authentic Islamic book after the Quran.

In any religion, if the majority of it's followers believe that something is a part of that religion, then it is, as religion is all about belief. So that means that the six major Hadiths are Islamic, as the majority of Muslims believe in them.


The hadieth's are the most important part of Islam.

The Qur'an itself is gibberish, for the sheep, written on a 6th grade level, goes in and out of the 1st, 2nd,and 3rd person, you never know who you are talking to.
No context, no storyline, constant repetition, jumps from one thing to another.
And it is not in chronological order.

You need the Hadieth's to understand what can be understood, but there are more problems.

They contradict each other all the time.
The only biographies of Muhammed worked fine for 1000 years as muslims raided their way across Europe for booty, but now in the 21st century, they are so obscene, Islam is trying to hide them.

Keep in mind, Ishaq and Taburi were around long before Bukhari existed. and they are pure evil.
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