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Old 02-12-2011, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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ok i can be wrong because i am human
the quran is always correct becuse it is from Allah.

there is nothing wrong in the verse
but my comments on them can have some thing wrong and i ask Allah forgiveness.
The verse is wrong, you just won't admit it.

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In the verse above, unbelievers are reminded that they will be resurrected and that it will be a difficult day for them. Imagine, billions of men rising from the dead, coming out of their graves! Confusion, perplexity, fear, remorse... Everybody on his own... The only help is from God. The day when high offices, families, riches and possessions have no value- the day of no return...
The day of the Zombies!..I can imagine the stench of all those rotten corpses.

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The resurrected are likened to locusts; why particularly locusts? Recent research benefiting from micro cameras conducted by a systematic observation of insects have given us an idea about the reason for the selection of locusts as an example. To begin with, swarms of locusts, billions of them together, give the impression of a vast rain cloud without end, a black mass stretching far and wide many kilometers! Locusts bury their eggs in the earth and their larvae spend some time under the ground before they eventually emerge to the surface.
The above is correct, but the eggs hatch in 10 to twenty days and emerge from the ground.
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Take for instance the locusts, part of the fauna of New England, USA; in the month of May of the year in which they attain their 17th year, these insects emerge from under the ground where they have been living for years and years. Suppose, you tell a man: “We’ll shut you up in a dark cell without a wristwatch and you’ll have no contact whatsoever with the outside world and you’ll be released at the end of the 17th day.” it is very doubtful that he will be able to know exactly the time when he will be let out. There is a similarity between the rebirth of locusts and man’s resurrection.
Here you go mistaking CICADAS for locusts again.

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-After a long time
Locusts hatch in 10 to 20 days, not a long time
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-Under the ground
Until they hatch
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-Altogether
They do not hatch or emerge at the same time
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-Densely crowded
Not sure about that
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-They rise to the surface of the earth
They emerge as ‘hoppers’ (like miniature adults but wingless at this stage).

Locust...



Cicada..The insect that spends most of it's life ( up to 17 years) underground, but they are not destructive and do not swarm.

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Old 02-12-2011, 10:50 PM
 
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The verse is wrong, you just won't admit it.


here are the verses again

highlights what you feign scientifically wrong

And surely there hath come unto them news whereof the purport should deter,

Effective wisdom; but warnings avail not.

So withdraw from them (O Muhammad) on the day when the Summoner summoneth unto a painful thing.

With downcast eyes, they come forth from the graves as they were locusts spread abroad,

Hastening toward the summoner; the disbelievers say: This is a hard day. The Noble Quran.

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Old 02-12-2011, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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No, I have given up trying to explain anything to you, but I'll tell you this..Not one person will ever rise from the grave, in this your qu'ran is wrong...Death is final.
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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Cicadas make such an annoying sound..I'm thankful that they are not very common here.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky9-FUrUiJw
It's actually an awesome sound. It comes in waves of unison. There is nothing like a Georgia summer evening on the back porch, in the shade of my Black Walnut, with a good I.P.A. as the Cicadas hum. Ahh, heaven and a good book!

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Old 02-12-2011, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I'd enjoy the IPA, but you can keep those noise makers.
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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I'd enjoy the IPA, but you can keep those noise makers.
Not until you try it out. There's a certain attitude about it. Have you ever been to Georgia, Wyatt Earp?
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:25 PM
 
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more verses
And the trumpet is blown and lo! from the graves they hie unto their Lord.

*******************************

So let them chat and play until they meet their Day which they are promised,
The day when they come forth from the graves in haste, as racing to a goal,
With eyes aghast, abasement stupefying them: Such is the Day which they are promised.

**************************

Al-Qari'ah (the striking Hour i.e. the Day of Resurrection).

What is the striking (Hour)?

And what will make you know what the striking (Hour) is?

It is a Day whereon mankind will be like moths scattered about.

And the mountains will be like carded wool.


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Old 02-12-2011, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Rome, Georgia
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more verses
And the trumpet is blown and lo! from the graves they hie unto their Lord.

*******************************

So let them chat and play until they meet their Day which they are promised,
The day when they come forth from the graves in haste, as racing to a goal,
With eyes aghast, abasement stupefying them: Such is the Day which they are promised.

**************************

Al-Qari'ah (the striking Hour i.e. the Day of Resurrection).

What is the striking (Hour)?

And what will make you know what the striking (Hour) is?

It is a Day whereon mankind will be like moths scattered about.

And the mountains will be like carded wool.


I love poetry. You're turning me on. This is not how I envisioned this night.
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:51 PM
 
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25 But as for him who is given his record in his left hand, he will say: Oh, would that I had not been given my book
26 And knew not what my reckoning!
27 Oh, would that it had been death!
28 My wealth hath not availed me,
29 My power hath gone from me.
30 (It will be said): Take him and fetter him
31 And then expose him to hell-fire
32 And then insert him in a chain whereof the length is seventy cubits.
33 Lo! He used not to believe in Allah the Tremendous,
34 And urged not on the feeding of the wretched.
35 Therefor hath he no lover here this day,
36 Nor any food save filth
37 Which none but sinners eat.
38 But nay! I swear by all that ye see
39 And all that ye see not
40 That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger.
41 It is not poet's speech - little is it that ye believe!
42 Nor diviner's speech - little is it that ye remember!
43 It is a revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.
44 And if he had invented false sayings concerning Us,
45 We assuredly had taken him by the right hand
46 And then severed his life-artery,
47 And not one of you could have held Us off from him.
48 And lo! it is a warrant unto those who ward off (evil).
49 And lo! We know that some among you will deny (it).
50 And lo! it is indeed an anguish for the disbelievers.
51 And lo! it is absolute truth.
52 So glorify the name of thy Tremendous Lord.
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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ok i can be wrong because i am human
the quran is always correct becuse it is from Allah.

there is nothing wrong in the verse
but my comments on them can have some thing wrong and i ask Allah forgiveness.

here is another link about the same subject
Quran Miracles | LIKE LOCUSTS (http://www.quranmiracles.org/articles.asp?id=73 - broken link)

In the verse above, unbelievers are reminded that they will be resurrected and that it will be a difficult day for them. Imagine, billions of men rising from the dead, coming out of their graves! Confusion, perplexity, fear, remorse... Everybody on his own... The only help is from God. The day when high offices, families, riches and possessions have no value- the day of no return...

The resurrected are likened to locusts; why particularly locusts? Recent research benefiting from micro cameras conducted by a systematic observation of insects have given us an idea about the reason for the selection of locusts as an example. To begin with, swarms of locusts, billions of them together, give the impression of a vast rain cloud without end, a black mass stretching far and wide many kilometers! Locusts bury their eggs in the earth and their larvae spend some time under the ground before they eventually emerge to the surface.

Take for instance the locusts, part of the fauna of New England, USA; in the month of May of the year in which they attain their 17th year, these insects emerge from under the ground where they have been living for years and years. Suppose, you tell a man: “We’ll shut you up in a dark cell without a wristwatch and you’ll have no contact whatsoever with the outside world and you’ll be released at the end of the 17th day.” it is very doubtful that he will be able to know exactly the time when he will be let out. There is a similarity between the rebirth of locusts and man’s resurrection.

-After a long time
-Under the ground
-Altogether
-Densely crowded
-They rise to the surface of the earth

The parables and metaphors in the Quran are many. These figures of speech are to help us to understand better the meanings of the verses
Quran Miracles | LIKE LOCUSTS

Well I sure wish your Allah a whole lot of luck raising a bunch of ashes from the Chesapeake Bay because that's where my ashes are going to be spread after I'm cremated and my spirit will be sitting in council with my ancestors, so it's not likely that your Allah will be making a visit to my family Council.
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