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Old 02-24-2009, 08:47 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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If allah were a real God, I'd be more concerned. But for now I'm of the definite opinion that pork fat rules, and adding bacon makes just about anything taste better.
Well, both the Christians and Muslims agree that there is only one God, so presumably it's the same guy! Anyway, the dietary law of not eating pork was also given by God in Leviticus 11:7 and Deuteronomy 14:8 and resulted in the observance of Kashrut by the Jews.

Unfortunately, many Christians are of the opinion that when Jesus arrived on the scene the Old Testament was immediately supplanted by the New Testament and all of the old laws were thrown out with the baby and the bathwater.

Besides, it is so much more convenient NOT to have to follow strict dietary laws to show observance and obedience to God (or Allah, as the case may be). It takes so much character to deny oneself when it is so much easier just to say "oh that does not apply". Which is true of many OLD Testament teachings which people find inconvenient.

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Old 02-24-2009, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Western Cary, NC
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I think it is because they never had BBQ from eastern NC. It is really sad how deprived some parts of the world are.

In reality I think it comes from the period of Abraham and has to do with the hooves of the animal. Years back I read it was a way of keeping people from contracting trichinosis from eating uncooked or undercooked meat.
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Old 02-25-2009, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Legend of Sleepy Hollow
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Why do Hindus love cows?
Because cows would be an endangered species if everyone in India did eat all the beef they could afford.
Arabs eat camels.
How long do you think it would take Arabs to put pigs on the endangered species list, given their oil money, if Arabs did eat all the pork they could afford to eat?
And if they Arabs did buy all that pork, how many Americans would go into the pig ranch business to earn the money that Arabs would spend on pork?
You get what you pay for.
Buy cocaine or marijuana to pay for coca farmers or marijuana farmers.
How many pig ranchers do we really want?
North Korea and some parts of China are so starved that they eat dogs, sort of like "Alaskan delight" whale blubber meat, Eskimo Inuit tradition.
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Old 03-02-2009, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh but I'm ready to relocate......
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It actually says in the Bible that we should not eat of the pig. I forget the exact scripture.......
This is an excerpt from How to eat to live by Hon. Elijah Muhammed

He is the foulest animal. He lives off nothing but filth. The only way you can get him to live and eat better food is to keep him from getting to filth. He is so poisonous (99 per cent), that you can hardly poison him with other poison. You can even give him lye, something you'd think would cut up the intestines when eaten.

Snakes can't poison them; they eat them and fatten. The bit of the snakes don't harm them, because they eat the biter. He is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer line and you may find the opening on his forelegs. It is a little hole out of which oozes pus.
This is the filth of his body that cannot be passed fast enough.
HE IS THE greediest animal. He never knows or cares to stop eating, as long as he sees something to eat. He is the dumbest animal. He keeps his nose smelling and eyes looking for something in the earth. You could feed him all day long, and he will never look up to see his feeder.
In case of bad weather arising, he is never intelligent enough to go in before it actually starts raining or hailing on his back. He takes no warning. He will keep his head in the earth, rooting until the storm is lashing his back with rain and the lighting is blinding his eyes.
Please learn to eat one meal a day, and let it be without swine flesh and many of the ailments you are now suffering and getting medicine from the doctor, will disappear. [LEFT] TO DIABETICS: Eat one meal a day, and lay off that starch and sugar that is making you sick. Write and let me know that you have tried eating once a day, shunning sugar and starches and before a week's time, your urine is negative of sugar and acid is negative. [/LEFT]
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Old 03-02-2009, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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This is an excerpt from How to eat to live by Hon. Elijah Muhammed

He is the foulest animal. He lives off nothing but filth. The only way you can get him to live and eat better food is to keep him from getting to filth. He is so poisonous (99 per cent), that you can hardly poison him with other poison. You can even give him lye, something you'd think would cut up the intestines when eaten.

Snakes can't poison them; they eat them and fatten. The bit of the snakes don't harm them, because they eat the biter. He is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer line and you may find the opening on his forelegs. It is a little hole out of which oozes pus.
This is the filth of his body that cannot be passed fast enough.
HE IS THE greediest animal. He never knows or cares to stop eating, as long as he sees something to eat. He is the dumbest animal. He keeps his nose smelling and eyes looking for something in the earth. You could feed him all day long, and he will never look up to see his feeder.
In case of bad weather arising, he is never intelligent enough to go in before it actually starts raining or hailing on his back. He takes no warning. He will keep his head in the earth, rooting until the storm is lashing his back with rain and the lighting is blinding his eyes.
Please learn to eat one meal a day, and let it be without swine flesh and many of the ailments you are now suffering and getting medicine from the doctor, will disappear. [LEFT] TO DIABETICS: Eat one meal a day, and lay off that starch and sugar that is making you sick. Write and let me know that you have tried eating once a day, shunning sugar and starches and before a week's time, your urine is negative of sugar and acid is negative. [/LEFT]
Harsh. I raised pigs for many years and they're not all bad In fact, I had a gilt that wouldn't eat food off the floor, it HAD to be in a clean container or she wouldn't touch it. Picky little pig.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:50 PM
 
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Anthropologist Marvin Harris has written extensively on this topic and similar topics (Why Hindus "love" cows, worship them, and do not eat beef). He speculates that logical reasons exist, and it's not all just irrational and bizzare behavior. For example (one of the explanations) have to do with the hot, dry, arid climate and pastoral landscape in those regions of the Biblical Middle East where the religious dietary laws were originated (Negev, Jordan Valley, Palestine, Mesopotamia, Egypt). Pigs don't sweat much (contary to popular myth) and do not adapt well to the heat. Pigs do much better in forest and shaded riverbanks, and temperatures under 84 degrees F. When the temperature is higher than 84 degrees, they have some really dirty habits to keep cool (they roll around in their own feces and urine) rather than some fresh mud. That's why they're became known as "unclean" -- not the mud, but the poop and pee. There are other reasons as well. See "Cows, Pigs, Wars, and Witches" by Marvin Harris.
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Earth
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When the temperature is higher than 84 degrees, they have some really dirty habits to keep cool (they roll around in their own feces and urine) rather than some fresh mud. That's why they're became known as "unclean" -- not the mud, but the poop and pee. There are other reasons as well. See "Cows, Pigs, Wars, and Witches" by Marvin Harris.
I'm only going to read Marvins writings to see what Witches roll around in.

Cheers,
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Old 05-27-2009, 10:24 PM
 
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Ah yes, good choice. Harris writes that it's atropine, found in hemlock, henbane, belladonna, nightshade, and mandrake. With this hallucinogenic ointment applied to the broom (and other places on the body), they then "trip" and "fly" high.
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Old 06-08-2009, 12:56 PM
 
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PORK IS HARAM IN ISLAM! A lot of people misconstrue Islam's forbiddance of pork consumption as mere obsolete historical belief but it's actually based on real medical facts as illustrated below. The following was discovered many centuries ago upon the dawn of Islam but no logical explanation was ever offered on the rule...until now. If you pour Coke (yes, the soda) on a slab of pork, and wait a little while, you will SEE Worms crawl out of it. A message from the Health Corporation of Singapore about the Bad effects of pork consumption Pig's bodies contain MANY TOXINS, WORMS and LATENT DISEASES. Although some of these infestations are harbored in other animals, modern veterinarians say that pigs are far MORE PREDISPOSED to these illnesses than other animals. This could be because PIGS like to SCAVENGE and will eat ANY kind of food, INCLUDING dead insects, worms, rotting carcasses, reta (including their own), garbage, and other pigs. INFLUENZA (flu) is one of the MOST famous illnesses which pigs share with humans. This illness is harbored in the LUNGS of pigs during the summer months and tends to affect pigs and humans in the cooler months. Sausage contains bits of pigs' lungs, so THOSE who EAT pork sausage tend to SUFFER MORE during EPIDEMICS of INFLUENZA. Pig meat contains EXCESSIVE quantities of HISTAMINE and IMIDAZOLE compounds, which can lead to ITCHING and INFLAMMATION; GROWTH HORMONE which PROMOTES INFLAMMATION and growth; sulfur containing mesenchymal mucus which leads to SWELLING and deposits of MUCUS in tendons and cartilage, resulting in ATHRITIS, RHEUMATISM, etc. Sulfur helps cause FIRM human tendons and ligaments to be replaced by the pig's soft mesenchymal tissues, and degeneration of human cartilage. Eating pork can also lead to GALLSTONES and OBESITY, probably due to its HIGH CHOLESTEROL and SATURATED FAT content. The pig is the MAIN CARRIER of the TAENIA SOLIUM WORM, which is found in its flesh. These tapeworms are found in human intestines with greater frequency in nations where pigs are eaten. This type of tape-worms can pass through the intestines and affect many other organs, and is incurable once it reaches beyond a certain stage. One in six people in the US and Canada has TRICHINOSIS from eating trichina worms, which are found in pork. Many people have NO SYMPTOMS to warn them of this, and when they do, they resemble symptoms of many other illnesses. These worms are NOT noticed during meat inspections.(NST, Singapore)

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Old 06-08-2009, 02:02 PM
 
Location: In the Heartland of Hooterville!
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A friend of mine was married <a short time--basically as soon as he got his green card!>to a muslim man she met at college. She told me he would not allow her to bring anything PORK into the home because he viewed it as "dirty & unclean." Soo, her being a natural "pork eater" she soon grew tired of never having any and while he was gone one overnight she fried up some porkchops for her & her son!

Well somehow he found out and when he did, he actually made her throw away the skillet that she had cooked it in!! lol! Can you say crazy!

She said that he, and most of the ones she met all viewed "pork" in this manner- unclean and dirty- AND..... not only that, but muslim men (hers & friends of hers) also "DE-HAIR" themselves because it is also seen as an "unclean-dirty" body!! I asked her, everywhere? She said yes...EVERYWHERE! lol! (If you know what I mean!) She said there was no hair anywhere, except on his head. He "de-haired" himself with 'Nair' on his "arms/legs/underarms/chest/and other areas" usually 1 x a week or a little longer...she thought it was odd but I guess even all of her g/f men did this too! Too Weird 4 me!
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