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Old 05-27-2011, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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That would be a plus. I agree with you. Perhaps one day the powers to be will see a need for an Islamic sub-forum.
Nobody really seemed to disagree with the idea:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/relig...their-own.html

 
Old 05-27-2011, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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♩♫♪ What is Islam... Baby don't hurt me... don't hurt me... no more... ♫♩♬

 
Old 05-27-2011, 09:40 PM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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Not only that, but as terrorism goes, Fundamentalist Islamists account for a horribly small amount of it.

ETA fro instance are far more successful in their ventures and far more deadly.
Not to be disrespectful, but that's not really true. At most the ETA appear to be responsible for about a 1000 deaths in a 40 year period. "Al-Qaeda in Iraq" itself is linked to more than that in the last 10 years.

I believe that ever since the destruction of the "Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam" aka "The Tamil Tigers" the most violent terrorist groups have been Islamic, but there are a few Marxist or Maoist groups that might be close. This isn't to tar all Islam, as these groups represent a small minority of Muslims, but there are a somewhat unusual set of situations in a few Islamic nations that aren't precisely duplicated elsewhere. (I thought of explaining that, but it would likely take too long)
 
Old 05-28-2011, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You do realize that the Mideast accounts for only about 10% of the world's Muslims, but nearly every bit of the violence attributed to us. The majority of us live very quiet peaceful lives and cause nobody any distress.
I have no idea where you got those figures, but the estimates are that there are between 1.2 and 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and 419 million of those live in the middle east....Do the math.
 
Old 05-28-2011, 12:30 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Not only that, but as terrorism goes, Fundamentalist Islamists account for a horribly small amount of it.

ETA fro instance are far more successful in their ventures and far more deadly.
Really? The religion of peace...Making a difference, one body at a time.

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
 
Old 05-28-2011, 02:01 AM
 
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I don't see Islam as a peaceful religion, a religion founded by a guy who led troops in battle is not exactly peacenik, but it's not all "let the bodies hit the floor" or something.

Islamic Relief USA - Home
Free kidnapped CARE head: Islamic group - After Saddam - www.smh.com.au - Kind of involves both violent and sympathetic Muslims.
Aga Khan Foundation
Walking the walk to end global poverty (http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Walking+walk+global+poverty/4836185/story.html - broken link)
 
Old 05-28-2011, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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I have no idea where you got those figures, but the estimates are that there are between 1.2 and 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and 419 million of those live in the middle east....Do the math.
My error. I had Arab Nations in mind as being the mid east and overlooked that most of the Mideast is not Arab although it is predominately Muslim.

1 Egypt 79,011,000 2 Turkey 77,804,122 3 Iran 75,078,000 4 Sudan 43,939,598 5 Algeria 35,423,000 6 Morocco 32,000,200 7 Iraq 31,467,000 8 Saudi Arabia 27,136,977 9 Yemen 24,256,000 10 Syria 22,505,000 11 Israel 7,627,800 12 Jordan 6,472,000 13 United Arab Emirates 4,707,000 14 Lebanon 4,255,000 15 Palestinian territories 3,935,249 16 Kuwait 3,051,000 17 Oman 2,905,000 18 Qatar 1,696,563 19 Bahrain 807,000



Although those make up the mideast countries. Except for Saudi and the UAE they have either no Arab population or very small number. Iranians are not Arabic. Actually they and Turks fall under the category of being Indo-European.
 
Old 05-28-2011, 07:37 AM
 
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Some of my best friends in college were Muslim and mainly from Pakistan. I don't hold to their beliefs, but I respect them.
 
Old 05-28-2011, 08:01 AM
 
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I don't see Islam as a peaceful religion, a religion founded by a guy who led troops in battle is not exactly peacenik, but it's not all "let the bodies hit the floor" or something.

Islamic Relief USA - Home
Free kidnapped CARE head: Islamic group - After Saddam - www.smh.com.au - Kind of involves both violent and sympathetic Muslims.
Aga Khan Foundation
Walking the walk to end global poverty (http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Walking+walk+global+poverty/4836185/story.html - broken link)
A big part of the misunderstanding of us that causes many to see us as not being a peaceful religion is that while we are not aggressors we also are not a "turn the other Cheek" religion. We do believe in Self Defense. Sadly some of us carry self defense to extreme levels. While self defense is permitted, we are commanded to follow specific rules and not go beyond reasonable limits.

A few other Charities to add to your list:

Muslim Hands - United for the Needy

QAAF Aid | Home

One of my favorite and one I was active in and knew the founder of is Palestinian Children's Welfare Fund, Although it was a Muslim Charity, Many of the Staff was Palestinian Jews living in Austin Texas.. Sadly it fell apart after the murder of the Founder, my Friend Riad Hamad

Apparently it is reactivating, but I no longer live in Austin and do not know the current Board of Directors.

http://www.pcwf.org/
 
Old 05-28-2011, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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In an attempt to return this back to the topic of "What is Islam?"

I would like to clarify what is meant by prayer in Islam. Salat is often the word translated to English as prayer. We are obligated to do Salat 5 times daily. some people misunderstand this and think we are only allowed to pray 5 times a day and then only in congregation.

Fajr is our shortest Salat of the Day. It is our early morning prayer said shortly before sunrise. Salat is always led by An Imam (Who can be simply the oldest male present) It is preffered for us to say our Salat in a Mosque with others. But if that is not feasible it can be said alone.

Fajr for the Curious



What we call Dua corresponds more with what Christians call prayer. We can say those at anytime we desire either in our own words or any of the commonly used ones. They can be said in any language.

Two common duas:

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Thank you Allah swt for all the blessings ,Oh Allah Forgive all our sins,give us all that is good & keep us away from all that is bad
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O Allah, Lord and Sustainer of mankind, remove his difficulty and cure him.
You are the only One who cures. There is no cure but Yours. Grant such
(complete) cure that leaves no trace of illness.
We have no hymns or any form of Music in the Mosque. But we do have what is similar called nasheeds. Many of us listen to these often. A true Nasheed has no instrument Accompaniment.

My favorite Nasheed is in Arabic and is the al-Asma ul Husna (99 names of Allaah(swt))



Another of my favorites, this one is in English

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