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Old 06-09-2011, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Dubai
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Imagine If New York is taken by Jewish and it's no more an American State how do you feel?!
Jewish and Muslim is living peacefully in Yemen and Kuwait.... Muslim and Christian is living peacefully in Turkey, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and many other countries >>> Israel well not sleep and rest until they take all Palestine >> the proof is Israel will start a new war with Lebanon or Gaza or Syria and the days well show you that .....Unfortunately Israel is supported by US
Do you know that in Israel many people believe in Khabala things and the black magic and Freemasons >> read about Freemasons and well be shocked
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Old 06-09-2011, 01:27 PM
 
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Imagine If New York is taken by Jewish and it's no more an American State how do you feel?!
Jewish and Muslim is living peacefully in Yemen and Kuwait.... Muslim and Christian is living peacefully in Turkey, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and many other countries >>> Israel well not sleep and rest until they take all Palestine >> the proof is Israel will start a new war with Lebanon or Gaza or Syria and the days well show you that .....Unfortunately Israel is supported by US
Do you know that in Israel many people believe in Khabala things and the black magic and Freemasons >> read about Freemasons and well be shocked
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I am stunned at the amount of things you don't understand...

Kabalah is not black magic..

Islam has the Sufism ----- Sufism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jews were living peacefully all over the middle east until they were kicked out of those countries...

Israel will defend herself...

These various places have nothing to worry about if they stop attacking Israel by rockets attacks. But Israel will always defend her citizens.
 
Old 06-09-2011, 01:38 PM
 
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In any case, your post is worth repeating, sans . . . the distinction is not a minor one. Muslims fight for religious reasons, period . . . and that is far more troublesome.
Muslims don't just fight for religious regions... A lot of violence is political at the root of it. When the PLO had both Muslim and Christian Palestinian Arabs working together to attack Israeli targets---was that simply for religious reasons just for the Muslims involved?
 
Old 06-10-2011, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Muslims don't just fight for religious regions... A lot of violence is political at the root of it. When the PLO had both Muslim and Christian Palestinian Arabs working together to attack Israeli targets---was that simply for religious reasons just for the Muslims involved?
Should add there were also Palestinian Jews attacking Israeli targets at that time. They still participate in protests.
 
Old 06-10-2011, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Ok and the folks from Saudia Arabia weren't terrorists who flew planes into the twin towers?
So why didn't Bush invade Saudi Arabia rather than Iraq...who had nothing to do with 9/11?
 
Old 06-10-2011, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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I am stunned at the amount of things you don't understand...

Kabalah is not black magic..

Islam has the Sufism ----- Sufism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jews were living peacefully all over the middle east until they were kicked out of those countries...

Israel will defend herself...


So, arabs will defend themself too


These various places have nothing to worry about if they stop attacking Israel by rockets attacks. But Israel will always defend her citizens.

I think you did not read the history at all , just you are defending Zionists
israel had been attacked the Palestinian residents and destroyed their homes Before having any kind of resistance and any rockets

If you do not you read history,then this is your problem
 
Old 06-10-2011, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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So why didn't Bush invade Saudi Arabia rather than Iraq...who had nothing to do with 9/11?

What? Be carefull , you will not find one feeds with Oil then ...

you should be shame of yourself, Rather than to reject the occupation of any State came say this ..

about 9\11 do not know that your Bush and Zionists had done?

look, America and Israel will pay a heavy price for their wars on Muslim countries ..

Do you want any Muslim country occupies your land, O selfish
 
Old 06-10-2011, 10:02 AM
 
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What? Be carefull , you will not find one feeds with Oil then ...

you should be shame of yourself, Rather than to reject the occupation of any State came say this ..

about 9\11 do not know that your Bush and Zionists had done?

look, America and Israel will pay a heavy price for their wars on Muslim countries ..

Do you want any Muslim country occupies your land, O selfish

If Christians, or Jews, or hindus, or any other extremest group that was attacking in the name of their religion had flown 2 planes into the twin towers we would be at war.

They just happened to be muslims who were attacking us in the name of Islam.

I will tell you this..

With any people there was always someone there before. The history of the world is one of migrations of people. Either forced or voluntary.

That fact will not ever change...

Europe has a history of migrations, the Americas has a history of migrations, the Middle East has a history of migrations.

From Arabia where Islam first was born and from there conquest and conversion of those conquered.

Make no mistake Muslims certainly did let Christians and Jews life safely but as 2nd class citizens. And that changed during the time of Maimonides:

During Maimonides time, a sect of Moslems called the Almohads, “the devotees of Mohammed,” gained control of the Rambam’s home city of Cordova. One of their first acts was to force the Jews of Cordova to convert to Islam. If they refused, they had to leave, which meant leaving behind their homes, their furniture, essentially all their wealth. They could only take whatever possessions they could carry.

This has been a tit for tat conversation.

The reality is that between Christianity and Islam the 2 religions who see themselves as the truth and that all others are lost and in need of conversion. The world has seen much violence and heartbreak.

The other reality is that my country is not at war against Islam or Muslims. We are at war against terrorism and those who would seek to destroy my country.

The other countries in the west are not at war against Islam or Muslims but to protect their way of life.

The reality is that Muslims need to build up their countries, educate their populations and build governments that are for all the people. And to stop being the victims and using that as an excuse.
 
Old 06-10-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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If Christians, or Jews, or hindus, or any other extremest group that was attacking in the name of their religion had flown 2 planes into the twin towers we would be at war.

They just happened to be muslims who were attacking us in the name of Islam.

I will tell you this..

With any people there was always someone there before. The history of the world is one of migrations of people. Either forced or voluntary.

That fact will not ever change...

Europe has a history of migrations, the Americas has a history of migrations, the Middle East has a history of migrations.

From Arabia where Islam first was born and from there conquest and conversion of those conquered.

Make no mistake Muslims certainly did let Christians and Jews life safely but as 2nd class citizens. And that changed during the time of Maimonides:

During Maimonides time, a sect of Moslems called the Almohads, “the devotees of Mohammed,” gained control of the Rambam’s home city of Cordova. One of their first acts was to force the Jews of Cordova to convert to Islam. If they refused, they had to leave, which meant leaving behind their homes, their furniture, essentially all their wealth. They could only take whatever possessions they could carry.

This has been a tit for tat conversation.

The reality is that between Christianity and Islam the 2 religions who see themselves as the truth and that all others are lost and in need of conversion. The world has seen much violence and heartbreak.

The other reality is that my country is not at war against Islam or Muslims. We are at war against terrorism and those who would seek to destroy my country.

The other countries in the west are not at war against Islam or Muslims but to protect their way of life.

The reality is that Muslims need to build up their countries, educate their populations and build governments that are for all the people. And to stop being the victims and using that as an excuse.
What constitutes an Islamic country? One that is majority Muslim or one that is ruled under Islamic rule? At this time there are no countries under Islamic Rule although some claim to be. But they are essentially modified secularism.

The country that comes closest to being Islamic is Indonesia. Currently there are 47 nations that are majority Muslim. Not a single one is under an Islamic government. Iran claims to be under Islamic rule, but they are under Shii rule and follow the Ayatoullah. The Ayatoullah does not represent or speak for Islam. You can check out a list of them at this link:

List of Muslim-majority countries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It also gives the form of government for each.
 
Old 06-10-2011, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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Muslims don't just fight for religious regions... A lot of violence is political at the root of it. When the PLO had both Muslim and Christian Palestinian Arabs working together to attack Israeli targets---was that simply for religious reasons just for the Muslims involved?

it seems you see your media Only

do not know that jews that whole of the world are Anti-Israeli

everyone here I would ask him\her WHY THESE JEWS SGINST ISRAEL ?

you say just muslim or Christians aginst it so what about these


YouTube - ‪Top Jewish Rabbis condemn Israeli Flotilla Massacre‬‏


Jews Against the State of Israel



YouTube - ‪Jews Against the State of Israel‬‏


Iranian Jews protest against Israel


YouTube - ‪Iranian Jews protest against Israel‬‏


How the Jews Treat Christians in Israel?


YouTube - ‪How the Jews Treat Christians in Israel?‬‏
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