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Old 06-10-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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You say only Muslims and Christians are against them
any one pleas tell me about these why did they do this ?




























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Old 06-10-2011, 12:00 PM
 
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I think you did not read the history at all , just you are defending Zionists
israel had been attacked the Palestinian residents and destroyed their homes Before having any kind of resistance and any rockets

If you do not you read history,then this is your problem
I actually do but you are not very knowledgable at all about many things...

You keep spouting stuff that is just not correct....
 
Old 06-10-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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[quote=weaam;19532247]You say only Muslims and Christians are against them
any one pleas tell me about these why did they do this ?




Here are the facts:

1. Many Jews are against the occupation of the West Bank. I would like to see a 2 state solution with the West Bank being Palestine. I will not support another Hamas controlled territory. They are not marching to end the state of Israel.

2. Jews who don't accept the state of Israel are Haridim and make no mistake if the Moshiach were here they absolutely would support the state of Israel. They believe the state cannot be created by man but by G-d.

Its funny though that the haridim who don't accept the state of Israel are perfectly happy to take the states stipends so they can study and not work. So they in some ways do support the state.
 
Old 06-10-2011, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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If Christians, or Jews, or hindus, or any other extremest group that was attacking in the name of their religion had flown 2 planes into the twin towers we would be at war.

They just happened to be muslims who were attacking us in the name of Islam.

I will tell you this..

With any people there was always someone there before. The history of the world is one of migrations of people. Either forced or voluntary.

That fact will not ever change...

Europe has a history of migrations, the Americas has a history of migrations, the Middle East has a history of migrations.

From Arabia where Islam first was born and from there conquest and conversion of those conquered.

Make no mistake Muslims certainly did let Christians and Jews life safely but as 2nd class citizens. And that changed during the time of Maimonides:

During Maimonides time, a sect of Moslems called the Almohads, “the devotees of Mohammed,” gained control of the Rambam’s home city of Cordova. One of their first acts was to force the Jews of Cordova to convert to Islam. If they refused, they had to leave, which meant leaving behind their homes, their furniture, essentially all their wealth. They could only take whatever possessions they could carry.

This has been a tit for tat conversation.

The reality is that between Christianity and Islam the 2 religions who see themselves as the truth and that all others are lost and in need of conversion. The world has seen much violence and heartbreak.

The other reality is that my country is not at war against Islam or Muslims. We are at war against terrorism and those who would seek to destroy my country.

The other countries in the west are not at war against Islam or Muslims but to protect their way of life.

The reality is that Muslims need to build up their countries, educate their populations and build governments that are for all the people. And to stop being the victims and using that as an excuse.

Now compare Between the countries conquered by Muslims, and the countries which led the West on them the war such as Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine ...

countries conquered by the Muslims let them a thriving and safe but see but the let them Ruin and destruction

Islam did not spread by sword but with its strong faith and tolerance, how can we interpret the great number of people who embraced Islam in India, China, Malaya, Java, part of eastern India and Middle Africa? How can we explain the phenomenon that millions in Russia, Poland, and Lithuania in north Europe embraced Islam? How can we explain the same in Guinea?? Did the swords of Muslims expanded to reach these regions on Earth?? No lunatic or rational have said that!!

Ibn Al-Athir: accidents of the year 617 Hijrah).
Who can believe that such barbarians could embrace Islam voluntarily although they were the triumphed part in the battle?!

Islam did not only attract the pagan Seljuk and Tatar only but it attracted Crusaders who came to fight Muslims, they embraced Islam voluntarily. When Christian soldiers were invading Southeast of Asia in their way to Jerusalem, Christian Greeks over heard them and they informed Muslim Turks about their locations.

Thereupon, Muslim Turk attacked them and defeated these soldiers. They were in a miserable state and many of them were about to die, yet Muslim Turks helped them, treated the sick ones, fed those who were hungry and showed them mere generosity. Moreover, some Muslims bought French currencies to give them to the miserable crusaders. There was a great difference between the treatment of Muslim Turks and the Christian Greeks who showed no kindness with their own fellow people. Many of crusaders embraced the religion of Islam. Their number estimated three thousands.

Muslims never persecuted people of Spain or forced them to embrace Islam at the time of conquests. Muslims showed mere tolerance towards Spaniards. Muslims have established churches and monasteries for monks and nuns, they appointed non-Muslims in many positions in the state.


Islam protected Christians in Andalusia; they never persecuted them, despite this, Spaniards eliminated Islam and Muslims from Andalusia through massacres that were inspired by fanatic spirits.



Muslim Turks never interfered in the credo of their Christian citizens; they never dared to propagate Islam by sword. The Patriarch of Antioch "Macarius" described in a long speech how Muslims were tolerant, he said cursing the Catholic Polish people who massacred Orthodox saying, "Long live the State of Turks, they take from us the Jizyah (tax paid by Non-Muslims to Muslims in order that Muslims protect them) and they never interfere in other's faiths whether they were Christians, Jews, or Samaritans while these damned Polish are not satisfied with the tax they take from their fellow Christians though we serve them they put their fellows under the rule of the tyrant Jews who do not allow people to establish churches, and refuse that any vicar would see the secrets of their religion."


Islam and sword - www.TurnToIslam.com


but you stop being Defend your country , Israel and their crimes with a weak arguments

Rather than see that America's war on Iraq and Afghanistan and kill innocent citizens there called for shame you came say war against terrorism What about the destruction of Iraq and Afghanistan, Gaza, the use of white phosphorus and burned the bodies of innocent people there are not terrorism !!!! , destruction!!!
 
Old 06-12-2011, 04:29 AM
 
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Israel violated all international laws & used prohibited weapons against cities and innocent people and the world stands idly by to watch ... .. Israel is a terrorism state that must be provided for committing crimes against humanity , This is the worst terrorism in human history .
you know it I know it everybody knows it ...
History will never forget it and Israel will submit to courts to be punishand one day .
Justice always prevails at the end so enjoy the moment while you can .





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If this is not terrorism then I do not know what terrorism is !!!

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Old 06-12-2011, 05:20 AM
 
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Israel violated all international laws & used prohibited weapons against cities and innocent people and the world stands idly by to watch ... .. Israel is a terrorism state that must be provided for committing crimes against humanity , This is the worst terrorism in human history .
you know it I know it everybody knows it ...
History will never forget it and Israel will submit to courts to be punishand one day .
Justice always prevails at the end so enjoy the moment while you can .






If this is not terrorism then I do not know what terrorism is !!!
until hamas stops sending rockets into Israel which is attacking Israel, Israel can continue to defend her citizens.

Israelis have not know peace since the day of her founding so you can thank all who have attacked her for that.

When Hamas stops attacking there will be peace...

What you ought to be angry about is that hamas attacks Israel then hides in a civilian population behind women and children. That is what terrorist do.
They provoke and hide then cry unfair when those they attacked come after them.
 
Old 06-12-2011, 05:58 AM
 
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until hamas stops sending rockets into Israel which is attacking Israel, Israel can continue to defend her citizens.
By Using internationally prohibited weapons and committed genocides against Palestinian civilians , For every window that breaks in Israel you will destroy an entire village !!!
This is your concept of justice !!!
Israelis have not know peace since the day of her founding so you can thank all who have attacked her for that.
Strange
Why do you think ?!!!!
When Hamas stops attacking there will be peace...
This is the response I was expected from a Zionist Jews who do not have a heart or feeling to such heartbreaking images ... This is coold .
Is there a comparison between the number of victims of Hamas from the Israeli side with the number of Palestinian civilians that killed by Israel ?
This comparison makes Hamas look like an angel ...
Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed September 29, 2000 - Present :

Israelis and Palestinians Killed September 29, 2000 - Present :

Daily U.S. Military Aid to Israel and the Palestinians Fiscal Year 2011 :
"What a shame" !!!

Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes :


Now the world began to discover the ugly face of Israel ...
Injustice will not last forever ... you better Believe it ... Justice must be applied one day .
That is the divine law which must be applied .
As I say ...enjoy the moment while you can

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Old 06-12-2011, 07:38 AM
 
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This is the response I was expected from a Zionist Jews who do not have a heart or feeling to such heartbreaking images ... This is coold .
Is there a comparison between the number of victims of Hamas from the Israeli side with the number of Palestinian civilians that killed by Israel ?
This comparison makes Hamas look like an angel ...
Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed September 29, 2000 - Present :

Israelis and Palestinians Killed September 29, 2000 - Present :

Daily U.S. Military Aid to Israel and the Palestinians Fiscal Year 2011 :
"What a shame" !!!

Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes :


Now the world began to discover the ugly face of Israel ...
Injustice will not last forever ... you better Believe it ... Justice must be applied one day .
That is the divine law which must be applied .
As I say ...enjoy the moment while you can
War is awful...

But Israel is at war and has been at war for the last 63 years...

So when those who attack Israel stop the war will stop...

Simple as that...
 
Old 06-12-2011, 08:10 AM
 
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War is awful...

But Israel is at war and has been at war for the last 63 years...

So when those who attack Israel stop the war will stop...

Simple as that...
Lack of human conscience is even more awful !!
So just stop that comparison between Hamas and Israel ...
It makes you look ridiculous ..
P.S :the war will never stop because it is a holy war against the occupier even if the price would be the last Palestinian blood on this earth ...
An occupying force can not ever be at peace ...
 
Old 06-12-2011, 09:05 AM
 
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Lack of human conscience is even more awful !!
So just stop that comparison between Hamas and Israel ...
It makes you look ridiculous ..
P.S :the war will never stop because it is a holy war against the occupier even if the price would be the last Palestinian blood on this earth ...
An occupying force can not ever be at peace ...
Actually that goes both ways.... You don't see that the violence goes both ways. The palestinians provoke the attacks by attacking innocent Israeli citizens both Arab and Jew.

The war began 63 years ago when all the Arab nations attacked the tiny state of Israel and she won... yet they kept attacking and the terrorists keep attacking so if you wonder where the violence comes from go look in the back yard of the Palestinians...

I will always support Israelis right to defend herself against terror...

You on the other hand sound like a terrorist and you give all muslims a bad name.
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