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Old 05-30-2011, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Amen! The Islamist apologists remind me of the husband caught in bed with two women by his wife proclaiming his innocence and asking her whether she was going to believe him or her eyes! This religion of peace nonsense has no traction because it is not true. Those societies professing to be Islamic are intellectually and culturally barbaric. The Dark Ages barely covers it.
Currently there are 48 nations with 50% or over Muslim populations. Are they all "intellectually and culturally barbaric." ?

Here is a link to the names of those Nations. The List gives 50 names, but the last 2 are less than 50% Muslim.

Top 50 Muslim Countries - ReligionFacts

 
Old 05-30-2011, 07:22 PM
 
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Currently there are 48 nations with 50% or over Muslim populations. Are they all "intellectually and culturally barbaric."
Yeah, pretty much so. Review the list and report back
 
Old 05-30-2011, 07:42 PM
 
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Currently there are 48 nations with 50% or over Muslim populations. Are they all "intellectually and culturally barbaric." ?
Here is a link to the names of those Nations. The List gives 50 names, but the last 2 are less than 50% Muslim.
Top 50 Muslim Countries - ReligionFacts
You are using the wrong metric . . . population dominance is important and part of the game plan to institute Islamic Sharia law as the government by sheer force of numbers in every country. But the actual measure of Islamic states is the degree to which the archaic and barbaric Sharia laws are actually part of the governance of the country . . . THAT determines how Isamic they are . . . not population.l
 
Old 05-30-2011, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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You are using the wrong metric . . . population dominance is important and part of the game plan to institute Islamic Sharia law as the government by sheer force of numbers in every country. But the actual measure of Islamic states is the degree to which the archaic and barbaric Sharia laws are actually part of the governance of the country . . . THAT determines how Isamic they are . . . not population.l
Using that as a basis, there are no Islamic nations. Sharia can not be implimented except under a Caliphate and there will not be a Calipnate until Jesus(PBUH) returns. Iran which many believe is under Sharia is under an ayatoullah. Ayatoullah law is very far from sharia, You can not have an Islamic Nation without Sharia and you can not have Sharia without a Caliphate. The closest you can have would be sharia Civil law under control of the ruling nation.
 
Old 05-30-2011, 08:59 PM
 
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Using that as a basis, there are no Islamic nations. Sharia can not be implimented except under a Caliphate and there will not be a Calipnate until Jesus(PBUH) returns. Iran which many believe is under Sharia is under an ayatoullah. Ayatoullah law is very far from sharia, You can not have an Islamic Nation without Sharia and you can not have Sharia without a Caliphate. The closest you can have would be sharia Civil law under control of the ruling nation.
This is the best reason that all ought to fight Islam with every fiber of their being.

At least Christians think they will all just be taken up in a rapture...

The whole notion of a caliphate and sharia law and the fact that Muslims are waiting for this means that all need to be on guard...
 
Old 05-30-2011, 09:23 PM
 
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This is the best reason that all ought to fight Islam with every fiber of their being.

At least Christians think they will all just be taken up in a rapture...

The whole notion of a caliphate and sharia law and the fact that Muslims are waiting for this means that all need to be on guard...

The Christians are waiting for the Same Caliphate under Jesus(PBUH) but they believe it will be a Christian one and we believe it will be Islamic.

Both Christians and Muslims are waiting for the return of Jesus(PBUH) and all of mankind follow one religion.

Sharia law is virtually identical to the Mosaic law of Judea.
 
Old 05-31-2011, 12:20 AM
 
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Using that as a basis, there are no Islamic nations. Sharia can not be implimented except under a Caliphate and there will not be a Calipnate until Jesus(PBUH) returns. Iran which many believe is under Sharia is under an ayatoullah. Ayatoullah law is very far from sharia, You can not have an Islamic Nation without Sharia and you can not have Sharia without a Caliphate. The closest you can have would be sharia Civil law under control of the ruling nation.
Sharia is implemented in varying degrees already . . . so stop playing games with your caliphate nonsense. Such all-or-nothing games-playing is too typical of the deceitful Islamic religion and simply confirms all the negative stereotypes of Muslim apologists. Virtually none of the public actions and behaviors of Muslims world-wide contribute to the development of trust. ANY amount of Sharia law is TOO MUCH for any freedom-loving peoples. I agree with Jazzymom . . . the goals of Islam represent the greatest threat to the civilized world.
 
Old 05-31-2011, 05:42 AM
 
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The Christians are waiting for the Same Caliphate under Jesus(PBUH) but they believe it will be a Christian one and we believe it will be Islamic.

Both Christians and Muslims are waiting for the return of Jesus(PBUH) and all of mankind follow one religion.

Sharia law is virtually identical to the Mosaic law of Judea.
Christians are not waiting for a califate....... They think they are going to be raptured up to heaven and the world will end.

Christians don't believe in a caliphate.....

Jewish Law is not like Sharia.....

You don't know much do you...

All of man kind won't follow one religion....

Your ignorance and arrogance is stunning.
 
Old 05-31-2011, 07:23 AM
 
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The fact of the matter is that "the city of Europe" isn't a city at all.
What was it then !!
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I wonder if Muhammed predicted an age where the predominantly Christian nations of the West would invade the lands of Islam more or less at will, and that the Muslims would be utterly helpless to stop them.
Did he foretell an age when the only thing stopping France, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, Germany, Russia and England from grabbing up any Muslim nation and claiming it for their own was each other? That Islam would be so weak that they couldn't hope to stop them?
Actually he did ...
Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him, said: "nations are about to falter on you As Eaters falter to bowl , they said : is it because We are a few that day ? he said : no you will be a lot , a lot like scum of the flood , and God will take off the fear of you in your enemy's hearts , and God will enter debility in your hearts, they said "O Messenger of Allah, and what is that debility ? he answered : the love of lives , and the hatred of death . is love for the world and your hatred of death).
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And let's be real on something, if colonialism of the 1800's and 1900's and military actions by the Western powers since were "the new Crusades" as many Muslims like to paint them to be, then Egypt and North Africa would have been force converted back to Christianity.
We believe that God will always save Islam religion from extinction...
We only thank Allah for it ...
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If the modern Western Powers had been anywhere nearly as religiously obsessed as Islam was with taking Constantinople, then Mecca and Medina would either be smoking piles of rubble or strictly Christian cities where all Muslims are barred entry. If the "Great Satan" the USA was actually on some sort of ideological religious Crusade, why haven't they seized Mecca and Medina? What's stopping them? What was stopping colonial Europe from doing the same?
The Arabian Peninsul never has been exposed to foreign occupation ever ..
Have you ever asked yourself why ?
I will till u why .. because Mecca and Medina have always been reserved by God ...
Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him, said about Arabian Peninsul (I Asked Allah for not be inflicted upon them an enemy .. only of themselves ).
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The fact of the matter is that the European Christian nations long since stopped playing the Jihad vs Crusade game. This results in the confusing mess we have today: Muslims thinking they're fighting a Jihad for their religion when their religion is not even being threatened.
If the U.S. and the West deal with Palestinians and Israelis equality & stop encouraging injustice , Occupation and the killing of innocent people ,When America uses veto thwart any resolution of the U.N. that condemn Israel .. then no one would went out against America & the west ...
When there is injustice in the world the intolerance will show its ugly face ...
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Christians fighting for an entirely new ideology: Freedom of religion, equality of all peoples and genders,
etc.
You mean freedom to control oil resources ( and you said that I am the one who is being incredibly naive )
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And the rhetoric of Islamic global domination accomanying their perceived holy war scares the crap out of every non-Muslim in the world -- making them wonder if the world would not be a better place if Islam didn't exist anymore.
As I told u before the problem is not Islam its the injustice that have been done to Muslims .
Give me just one example of a terrorist attack before the occupation of Palestine !!
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But because of modern values, nobody is trying to eradicate Islam from the world, nor will they.
Thank you ... even if they try ... they Can't
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What you have is an incredibly naive and misguided one-sided holy war.
Originally Posted by godofthunder
Christians fighting for an entirely new ideology: Freedom of religion, equality of all peoples and genders,

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Old 05-31-2011, 07:51 AM
 
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Christians are not waiting for a califate.......
True. Although I'm guessing he's meaning the "Kingdom of God" which will occur after the "New Heaven and New Earth" in some interpretations of the Bible.

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They think they are going to be raptured up to heaven and the world will end.
Uh that's actually a, really rather small, subset of Christians who believe that as you mean it.

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Jewish Law is not like Sharia.....
Not exactly, but the idea of harsh punishments was in Judaism at one time and possibly remained in the time Islam arose. In the 613 Mitzvot there are

31. Not to make human forms even for decorative purposes--Exodus 20:20

33. To burn a city that has turned to idol worship--Deuteronomy 13:17


34. Not to rebuild it as a city--Deuteronomy 13:17

45. Not to be afraid of killing the false prophet--Deuteronomy 18:22

53. To destroy idols and their accessories--Deuteronomy 12:2

545. The courts must carry out the death penalty of stoning--Deuteronomy 22:24

552. The court must not let the sorcerer live--Exodus 22:17

596. Destroy the seven Canaanite nations--Deuteronomy 20:17



597. Not to let any of them remain alive--Deuteronomy 20:16


598. Wipe out the descendants of Amalek--Deuteronomy 25:19
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