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Old 06-08-2011, 11:01 AM
 
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Where does my soul go whilst I sleep?
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:59 PM
 
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[/indent][/indent][/indent]Souls are a scientific fact? You have to go back and re-read the definition of "fact."

the fact is

Allah takes the souls at death time and at sleeping time .
They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is by command of my Lord,
and of knowledge ye have been vouchsafed but little. The Noble Quran.
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:54 AM
 
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the fact is

Allah takes the souls at death time and at sleeping time .
They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is by command of my Lord,
and of knowledge ye have been vouchsafed but little. The Noble Quran.
Not a fact...It is nothing more than a myth, Don't call things facts unless you have evidence that can be examined, and your holy books are not evidence.
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Old 06-09-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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Not a fact...It is nothing more than a myth, Don't call things facts unless you have evidence that can be examined, and your holy books are not evidence.


the literal translation for the word in the verse in the OP is
(selves) = الأنفس

so may be it is not the soul
what sure 100% is that there is some thing dies in the sleep and in death
in death doesn not come back in this phase of life
and in sleep it comes back at wake up time


the verse in OP is
it is Allah Who takes away the souls at the time of their death; and those that die not during their sleep He keeps those (souls) for which He has ordained death and sends back the rest for a term appointed. Verily, in this are signs for a people who think deeply.The Noble Quran.



after changing souls to selves

it is Allah Who takes away the selves at the time of their death; and those that die not during their sleep He keeps those for which He has ordained death and sends back the rest for a term appointed. Verily, in this are signs for a people who think deeply.The Noble Quran.


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Old 06-09-2011, 12:17 PM
 
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Not a fact...It is nothing more than a myth, Don't call things facts unless you have evidence that can be examined, and your holy books are not evidence.
sanspeur ,while you're sleeping No one can see your soul when it go out
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:19 PM
 
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Does this have anything to do with what I told the Christian about unconscious states? and how the soul is supposed to explain consciousness? I would recomend the book "a dialogue on personal identity and immortality" it's about a dying atheist, the first pages are about a Christian trying to convince the atheist about souls.
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Old 06-09-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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sanspeur ,while you're sleeping No one can see your soul when it go out
I have no soul, so how could anyone see it?
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Old 06-09-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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No, it means there is no soul. Moderator cut: deleted
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Old 06-09-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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...what sure 100% is that there is some thing dies in the sleep and in death...

That is not at all 100% sure. Please link to some scientific studies proving that to be true.
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Old 06-09-2011, 02:15 PM
 
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That is not at all 100% sure. Please link to some scientific studies proving that to be true.
Fat chance of that
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