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Old 06-28-2011, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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Ok. as long as you wrote this,that means, you saw to one side

I said more than once here, I have no problem with Jews ,I knew some Jews and treat them with respect, I did not say one day, I hate the Jews, neither here nor anywhere but Jazzymom, More than once said I hate Muslims, islam here, Without regard for the feelings of Muslims here

anyway,I Do not want to turn it to court
weaam, do you know the saying, "two wrongs don't make a right"
Jazzymom is expressing her opinion and feelings towards a belief other than her own and has the right to do that in this country. Expressions and opinions are just that and yes some people's feelings are going to be hurt but that does not mean that everyone is going to agree with those expressions and opinions, their individual and there are times that individuals are going to say things that are going to hurt others' feelings and they may not realize that that is what they're doing, so rather than respond in a disrespectful way on your side, be respectful and asked them to do the same.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: egypt
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yes, I know what hearsay is , but al-hadith totally is not hearsay, I do not know if I find a stuff explains this point well in English but I will try.

i wanna to ask if she can consider OT to be hearsay if it was proofed to her that many chapters of it were written after moses's death ?

can we consider everything were written about moses to be herasay if moses (pbuh) didn't read it by himself ?
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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weaam, do you know the saying, "two wrongs don't make a right"
Jazzymom is expressing her opinion and feelings towards a belief other than her own and has the right to do that in this country. Expressions and opinions are just that and yes some people's feelings are going to be hurt but that does not mean that everyone is going to agree with those expressions and opinions, their individual and there are times that individuals are going to say things that are going to hurt others' feelings and they may not realize that that is what they're doing, so rather than respond in a disrespectful way on your side, be respectful and asked them to do the same.

yes, but If I expressed my opinion and feelings here, and said I hate Jews or Christians,I hate the West ...etc all will reply " Islam was learnd you Hatred , muhammed learnd you ....etc, But when a non-Muslim says this would be expressing him\her opinion
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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i wanna to ask if she can consider OT to be hearsay if it was proofed to her that many chapters of it were written after moses's death ?

can we consider everything were written about moses to be herasay if moses (pbuh) didn't read it by himself ?

yes. you are right, but she may see her torah written by men
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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i wanna to ask if she can consider OT to be hearsay if it was proofed to her that many chapters of it were written after moses's death ?

can we consider everything were written about moses to be herasay if moses (pbuh) didn't read it by himself ?
Of course the OT is hearsay, so is the new testament, the Qur'an and the hadith...They were all written by men telling stories about other men.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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weaam, can you comment on this story in this mornings new's...I found it quite surprising, but Saudi is one of the leading offenders in human trafficking. I thought that as the seat of Islam such things would not exist there....How do you explain it?

Washington (CNN) -- Human trafficking is flourishing in the Democratic Republic of Congo, North Korea, Saudi Arabia and Iran, with little effort by the countries' governments to combat it. State Department report ranks countries on human trafficking - CNN.com
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Old 06-28-2011, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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weaam, can you comment on this story in this mornings new's...I found it quite surprising, but Saudi is one of the leading offenders in human trafficking. I thought that as the seat of Islam such things would not exist there....How do you explain it?

Washington (CNN) -- Human trafficking is flourishing in the Democratic Republic of Congo, North Korea, Saudi Arabia and Iran, with little effort by the countries' governments to combat it. State Department report ranks countries on human trafficking - CNN.com

well, Simplest comments that many people whether Muslim or non-Muslim could think that Saudi as the seat of Islam have no Problems or offenders in human trafficking, I say,On the contrary Saudi Arabia has a mixture of all nationalities and cultures and come to a lot of African countries and Expats, Furthermore This is what happens when a person does not comply with the principles of Islam, as for the government itself, they are not competent to lead the country at all
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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Ok. as long as you wrote this,that means, you saw to one side

I said more than once here, I have no problem with Jews ,I knew some Jews and treat them with respect, I did not say one day, I hate the Jews, neither here nor anywhere but Jazzymom, More than once said I hate Muslims, islam , Without regard for the feelings of Muslims here

anyway,I Do not want to turn it to court

I don't hate muslims, I have muslim friends. I don't hate Islam, I hate the violence that comes out of Islam.

And Weaam the same disreguard has come from you also.

So maybe at this point you and I need to just agree that we both have been disrespectful of each other and move forward.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:18 PM
 
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yes, but If I expressed my opinion and feelings here, and said I hate Jews or Christians,I hate the West ...etc all will reply " Islam was learnd you Hatred , muhammed learnd you ....etc, But when a non-Muslim says this would be expressing him\her opinion
You have expressed you opinion here and its been full of your dislike of the west and Jews, and of me.
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Old 06-28-2011, 02:32 PM
 
Location: PA
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I don't hate muslims, I have muslim friends. I don't hate Islam, I hate the violence that comes out of Islam.

And Weaam the same disreguard has come from you also.

So maybe at this point you and I need to just agree that we both have been disrespectful of each other and move forward.
That's good.
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