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Old 06-26-2011, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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What I don't understand is what difference does it make whether you're a Shiite,Sunnis,or Shia. Just because your of a different Islamic faith doesn't mean that you have the right to try and take the life of the others because they believe differently, you read the same book. That's like saying that the Catholics have a right to take the life of a Protestant or a Methodist or a Lutheran or a Baptist because they don't believe the same and yet all read the same book. Now how stupid is that, a human being is a human being regardless of what you believe.

This business of taking the lives of people that don't believe the same as you do is pretty archaic, what difference does it make if one person doesn't believe the same as the other or interprets the same sacred book a little differently than you do, nobody thinks exactly alike and everybody has their own opinions. Taking a person's life over the the different opinions of the same sacred book, in my opinion is really stupid and barbaric.

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What I don't understand is what difference does it make whether you're a Shiite,Sunnis,or Shia. Just because your of a different Islamic faith doesn't mean that you have the right to try and take the life of the others because they believe differently, you read the same book.

yes, I agree with you, Both Shiites and Sunnis are brothers,Their book is one, Should not kill both of the other, More problems now between the Shiites and Sunnis in Iraq are political so Shiites in Iraq's were betrayed Sunni when some of their leaders stood with the occupier (U.S.) and Iran So, you find the fighting in Iraq only, War will not brings but division and ruin, may Allah help them
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Old 06-26-2011, 03:26 PM
 
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[quote=weaam;19762907]as there are Denominations in Christianity and Judaism so, it must be a denomination closer to the religion than the other


Christians and Jews aren't killing each other. Christians in my country even though they differ in theology live peacefully together. Although Christians are being killed in Muslim countries.

Jews also in my country get along with each other and other religions too.




no one knows what is run in Iraq, Specifically in this issue, Killing is on both sides
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Old 06-26-2011, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Woodrow LI: Athough your hypothetical "Islamic state" would be an improvement upon the so-called "Islamic republics", it would still be an undemocratic and repressive mixture of church and state which no one but (some) Muslims would want to live in. Is that what you want?

I have said many times there are no Islamic States and will not be one until the return of Jesus(as), when He and the Mehdi will form the next and last Caliphate. That is the type of Islamic state I want to live in. I do wish such could happen now, but that is an impossibility.
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Old 06-26-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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as there are Denominations in Christianity and Judaism so, it must be a denomination closer to the religion than the other


Christians and Jews aren't killing each other. Christians in my country even though they differ in theology live peacefully together. Although Christians are being killed in Muslim countries.

Jews also in my country get along with each other and other religions too.



If it happened to them what happened in Iraq and betrayed denomination of them to the other they would Fight each other, so Go back to history,(In Christianity and Judaism) (World War I and II and bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki) you will find such all these



no one knows what is run in Iraq, Specifically in this issue, Killing is on both sides

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Although Christians are being killed in Muslim countries


again wrong, Christians and Jews and all religions live in peace with Muslims in all Islamic countries, except the situation in Palestine, which everyone knows its conditions,so When your media notifying to about a person or two people were killed, this does not mean that this is widespread or Acceptable but is an abnormal
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Old 06-26-2011, 04:05 PM
 
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I have said many times there are no Islamic States and will not be one until the return of Jesus(as), when He and the Mehdi will form the next and last Caliphate. That is the type of Islamic state I want to live in. I do wish such could happen now, but that is an impossibility.

yes, you are totally right

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Old 06-26-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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again wrong, Christians and Jews and all religions live in peace with Muslims in all Islamic countries, except the situation in Palestine, which everyone knows its conditions,so When your media notifying to about a person or two people were killed, this does not mean that this is widespread or Acceptable but is an abnormal

Muslim attacks on Christians in Muslim lands
List of Islamic Terror Attacks on Christians

Ethiopia’s religious divides flare up in Muslim attacks on Christians | FaithWorld

Ethiopian Muslim Group Says More Attacks against Christians are Coming « Persecution News

Muslim: Coptic Christian attack a 'failure to accept the other'

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/52-d...istian-church/

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Punja...lee-21443.html

http://www.compassdirect.org/english...pakistan/26071

Attacks on Jews by Muslims
http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2010...uslim-attacks/

http://www.jrtelegraph.com/2010/06/m...tack-jews.html

http://www.thelocal.de/society/20100624-28069.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...te-crimes.html

http://islammonitor.org/index.php?op...k=view&id=4362

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Old 06-26-2011, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I have said many times there are no Islamic States and will not be one until the return of Jesus(as), when He and the Mehdi will form the next and last Caliphate. That is the type of Islamic state I want to live in. I do wish such could happen now, but that is an impossibility.
It will always be an impossibility thankfully. I would have no desire to live in what you consider an ideal world that lacks freedom, and if you think that different sects of Muslims would cease killing each other if your ideals came to pass, then I have a bridge to sell you.
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Old 06-26-2011, 04:49 PM
 
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As I said every time, it is abnormal, The vast majority is in peace
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Old 06-26-2011, 04:55 PM
 
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As I said every time, it is abnormal, The vast majority is in peace

You said:

again wrong, Christians and Jews and all religions live in peace with Muslims in all Islamic countries, except the situation in Palestine


Which is wrong and the attacks on Christians and Jews by Muslims is on the rise.


Muslim attacks on Christians in Muslim lands
List of Islamic Terror Attacks on Christians

Ethiopia’s religious divides flare up in Muslim attacks on Christians | FaithWorld

Ethiopian Muslim Group Says More Attacks against Christians are Coming « Persecution News

Muslim: Coptic Christian attack a 'failure to accept the other'

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/52-d...istian-church/

http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Punja...lee-21443.html

http://www.compassdirect.org/english...pakistan/26071

Attacks on Jews by Muslims
http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2010...uslim-attacks/

http://www.jrtelegraph.com/2010/06/m...tack-jews.html

http://www.thelocal.de/society/20100624-28069.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...te-crimes.html

http://islammonitor.org/index.php?op...k=view&id=4362

http://www.adl.org/NR/exeres/D59191E...,frameless.htm
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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You said:

again wrong, Christians and Jews and all religions live in peace with Muslims in all Islamic countries, except the situation in Palestine


Which is wrong and the attacks on Christians and Jews by Muslims is on the rise.


Muslim attacks on Christians in Muslim lands
List of Islamic Terror Attacks on Christians

Ethiopia’s religious divides flare up in Muslim attacks on Christians | FaithWorld

Ethiopian Muslim Group Says More Attacks against Christians are Coming « Persecution News

Muslim: Coptic Christian attack a 'failure to accept the other'

52 Dead After Muslim Militants Attack Iraqi Christian Church | Breaking news and opinion on The Blaze

PAKISTAN Punjab: Muslim extremists attack, forcing Christian families to flee - Asia News

http://www.compassdirect.org/english...pakistan/26071

Attacks on Jews by Muslims
Jews Flee Southern Sweden over Racist Muslim Attacks. « The IUSB Vision Weblog

Jewish Russian Telegraph: Muslim "Youth" in Germany Attack Jews

Children's stone attack on Jews sparks outrage - The Local

Jews leave Swedish city after sharp rise in anti-Semitic hate crimes - Telegraph

Muslims attack Jews at University of Melbourne

American Muslim Extremists: A Growing Threat to Jews


There are plenty of not good people in all minorities and majorities Like these :

Jewish Mob Attacks Swiss Christians

Jewish Mobs Attack Christians


Jewish Christian in Israel Seeks Protection from Repeated Attacks

Jewish Christian in Israel Seeks Protection from Repeated Attacks

Christians Under Attack. (http://guardian.150m.com/palestine/jews-attack.htm - broken link)

MUST WATCH AGRESSIVE ATTACK A TOURIST IN ISREAL!!!!


YouTube - ‪MUST WATCH AGRESSIVE JEWS ATTACK!!!!‬‏

WHITE CHILDREN GET VERY BAD NEWS: JEW GOVERNMENT ATTACKS WHITE CHRISTIANS THAT PRUNE THEIR TREES, NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE JEW (http://news-cottage-two.blogspot.com/2011/05/jew-government-attacks-white-christians.html - broken link)


Christians under attack by ACLU secular Jews.


Zionists attack Christian tourists visiting the holy land


YouTube - ‪Zionists attack Christian tourists visiting the holy land‬‏

How the Jews Treat Christians in Israel?


YouTube - ‪How the Jews Treat Christians in Israel?‬‏


How the Jews Treat Christians in USA?


YouTube - ‪How the Jews Treat Christians in USA?‬‏

Persecution Of Christians In Israel


YouTube - ‪Persecution Of Christians In Israel (www.oneforisrael.org)‬‏

Christian Persecution in Israel « Real Christianity
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