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Old 07-14-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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Ramses II didn't drown in the sea. He was an old, infirm man (as examinations of his mummy shows), and probably couldn't have even stood up in a chariot, much less chase the Hebrews to the red sea. Sorrry, but the exodus didn't happen. It's a story meant to inspire the faithful of that culture, not a record of actual history.
It's not necessarily the case that the Exodus didn't happen. It's likelier that the account has been embellished. As to the state of the pharoah's health, at what point in Ramses' reign did the Exodus occur? (I mean really--he wasn't an old, infirm man until he became old and infirm. Before that, he was nothing if not a warrior).

Also, let's try to be fair: a community of people fleeing an army are hardly in a position to know who, exactly, is commanding that army. The assumption would have been that it was the pharoah, although it could have just as easily been one of his generals...even more likely since we know that Ramses didn't drown in the sea.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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The Bible doesn't say Pharoah drowned in the Red Sea. It says his army did.
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:36 PM
 
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It's not necessarily the case that the Exodus didn't happen. It's likelier that the account has been embellished. As to the state of the pharoah's health, at what point in Ramses' reign did the Exodus occur? (I mean really--he wasn't an old, infirm man until he became old and infirm. Before that, he was nothing if not a warrior).

Also, let's try to be fair: a community of people fleeing an army are hardly in a position to know who, exactly, is commanding that army. The assumption would have been that it was the pharoah, although it could have just as easily been one of his generals...even more likely since we know that Ramses didn't drown in the sea.

Ok, Ok. So the real story was that Habib, his buddy Uran and and their favorite goat snuck out of Egypt and set across the desert, closely pursued by Amash, the acolyte 10th priest of Nekhbet from the Fayium.

Lucky for Habib, the wadi of Al Hamash had dried out due to the late summer weather and he set across it, but when Amash tried to cross the waddi, he tripped, knocked his head on a rock and just so happend to land face down in the last muddy puddle, where he drowned.

By the time Habib and Uran got back to Caanan, the story had grown to include forty years of manna, burning bushes, a "couple of" new rules and golden calf, but the veracity of the story was doubtful because the goat had a big empty wine jar tied to it's back. Unfortunately, no one bothered to check for references or evidence, so generations of folks totally missed out on bacon for no good reason.
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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The Bible doesn't say Pharoah drowned in the Red Sea. It says his army did.
The Quran Does.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:10 AM
 
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"How did muhammad know ?"

Muhammad needed Jesus Christ as his personal savior. Allah if existed needs Jesus Christ has his personal savior.

Do not be deceived. To be saved from the Great White throne judgement which leads to Gehenna, you need Jesus Christ as your personal savior. "Isa" is an Anti-Christ.
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Old 07-16-2011, 09:55 PM
 
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It is the Messenger of Allah peace be upon him
Muhammad peace be upon him the person who is more than 1400 years
A message from God

He said that expensive to disseminate this message in all the earth not be limited to time or place of sex AVALON Ochkl

Saying that his message this is the last messages of the sky to the ground and that the seal of the apostles and prophets, there is no prophet after the Prophet peace be upon him
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:50 AM
 
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He said that expensive to disseminate this message in all the earth not be limited to time or place of sex AVALON Ochkl
That reads like something right out of William S. Burroughs!
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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Well, I for one don't like the idea of being limited to time or place of sex. All the religions say that their last prophet was the last "real" prophet.
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