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Old 09-12-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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The words that hurt at that time and still cause pain.



You need to keep in mind 64 years ago it was a single State called Palestine. No matter what rights they may have, the Zionists will always be seen as European invaders. There are still people living there who lived in pre-Israel days and they lost their homes, businesses and Nation.

Why should they have accepted a 2 state solution? The message the Palestinians hear and understand the offer to be is: "We are moving into your land. Out of fairness we will give you part of it to live on."

It was not a state, it was a territory and it included Trans Jordan.
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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Nonsense peace I will not believe it anymore

Peace begins with return all stolen land from Palestine and Syria Otherwise, no peace


the State Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates

what about this?

This is a dream faded by Resistance and Praise to God
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:43 PM
 
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Nonsense peace I will not believe it anymore

Peace begins with return all stolen land from Palestine and Syria Otherwise, no peace


the State Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates

what about this?

This is a dream faded by Resistance and Praise to God

Then I guess the Jordanians need to give back Jordan to the Palestinians.....

Israel is a fact on the ground and that won't change. At some point the never ending war needs to stop so people on both sides stop dieing but in order for that to happen Israel needs a peace partner and the Palestinians need to accept a 2 state solution.

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Old 09-12-2011, 07:33 PM
 
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the Palestinians need to accept a 2 state solution.
I thought Israel was also opposed to a two-state solution. Isn't that why they are opposed to the upcoming U.N. vote on Palestinian statehood?

My guess is that many Palestinians think they can destroy Israel just like they threw my Crusader ancestors out of Palestine 800 years ago. Israel has to prove them wrong.
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Old 09-12-2011, 07:53 PM
 
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I thought Israel was also opposed to a two-state solution. Isn't that why they are opposed to the upcoming U.N. vote on Palestinian statehood?

My guess is that many Palestinians think they can destroy Israel just like they threw my Crusader ancestors out of Palestine 800 years ago. Israel has to prove them wrong.

Israel is not opposed to a 2 state solution, it is opposed to a unilateral declaration of Palestine becoming a state.

Israel long ago over and over was willing to make concessions and what they got over and over was terror and rockets.

I don't think the Palestinians want peace, I think a state of Palestine will not bring peace.

I wish it were different.
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:01 PM
 
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Why doesn't Israel speak out against the Koran's teachings about how Jews are to burn in Hell, and how' in the Koran Muhammad committed genocide, murder, and rape against the Jews, and are referred to as dogs and pigs that can't be trusted and mustn't be friends with?
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Old 09-12-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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Why doesn't Israel speak out against the Koran's teachings about how Jews are to burn in Hell, and how' in the Koran Muhammad committed genocide, murder, and rape against the Jews, and are referred to as dogs and pigs that can't be trusted and mustn't be friends with?

And what good do you think would come out of that. What you express is utter hatred of Muslims and Islam, islamophobia.


What Muslims, Christians and Jews need to do is to grow in understanding of the other not get mired in the hate.
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:36 PM
 
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And what good do you think would come out of that. What you express is utter hatred of Muslims and Islam, islamophobia.


What Muslims, Christians and Jews need to do is to grow in understanding of the other not get mired in the hate.

I am not expressing hatred towards anybody. You want hate, read the Koran. The Koran teaches that Jews are not to be trusted, and they are all going to burn in Hell. Muhammad refers to all Jews as dogs and pigs. In the Koran, Muhammad committed genocide, and slavery of Jews. He teaches that it's ok to lie to Jews and even feign friendship to benifit Islam. My question is, why doesn't Israel point this out to the world and fight with words against the horrible oppressive, antisemitic views of the Koran? It seems that Israel is fine with everything in the Koran, when it is just as bad, if not worse than the teachings of Hitler. You think they should sit back and try to "understand" all the hate spewing of Muhammad? It is because of the Koran that all these attacks against Israel is happening. Why not challenge the Koran?
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:42 PM
 
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I am not expressing hatred towards anybody. The Koran teaches that Jews are not to be trusted, and they are all going to burn in Hell. Muhammad refers to all Jews as dogs and pigs. In the Koran, Muhammad committed genocide, and slavery of Jews. He teaches that it's ok to lie to Jews and even feign friendship to benifit Islam. My question is, why doesn't Israel point this out to the world and fight with words against the horrible oppressive, antisemitic views of the Koran? It seems that Israel is fine with everything in the Koran, when it is just as bad, if not worse than the teachings of Hitler. You think they should sit back and try to "understand" all the hate spewing of Muhammad? It is because of the Koran that all these attacks against Israel is happening. Why not challenge the Koran?

When it comes to Muslims and Islam your posts are nothing but vitriol and hatred.

What I understand is that Jews have been killed because others hated them simply because they were Jews. Anti semitism and Islamophobia aren't much different.

They both are fueled by hate.
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:50 PM
 
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When it comes to Muslims and Islam your posts are nothing but vitriol and hatred.

What I understand is that Jews have been killed because others hated them simply because they were Jews. Anti semitism and Islamophobia aren't much different.

They both are fueled by hate.

You are wrong. I mostly speak the truth about Muhammad and Islam, and the truth about God's compassion for mankind. The Koran spews hatred for all non-believers, especially the Jews. Muhammad commited genocide against the Jews and enslavened the wmen and children for sex slaves. It's all in the Koran. It teaches that no Muslim should make friends with Jews and Christians. It teaches that all Christians, Jews and all "non-believers" were created by Allah, and purposefully made evil by Allah so that they will all fill up Hell in the pklace of all Islammists. It is Muhammad and his false religion that is hateful. I merely speak up about it.
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