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Old 08-25-2011, 10:54 PM
 
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the quran has many reference to scientific facts .

and that is one of the types of verses that help those who have doubt to beleive that the quran is from Allah

and here is one of the fact


in the following second verse the quran talks about the waves inside a deep sea
As for those who disbelieve, their deeds are like a mirage in a desert. The thirsty one thinks it to be water, until he comes up to it, he finds it to be nothing; but he finds Allah with him, Who will pay him his due (Hell). And Allah is Swift in taking account.

Or [the state of a disbeliever] is like the darkness in a vast deep sea, overwhelmed with waves topped by waves, topped by dark clouds, (layers of) darkness upon darkness: if a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it! And he for whom Allah has not appointed light, for him there is no light.
The Holy Quran

The deep-down waves are........ Oceanology: Underwater Waves Make Underwater Weather - TIME


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Old 08-26-2011, 07:47 AM
 
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Default Silly analogy, but if that's the absolute best yah got.... so be it.

You're funny, finalmessage. Your own quote is specifically a metaphor; it says that "the state of a disbeliever" is LIKE a wave.

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"The Q'ran has many reference to "scientific facts"
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The Q'ran does not reference undersea currents at all. You are so easily dragged long by that philosophical ring in your nose!

Realize this: Islam is founded in technical & scientific ignorance, in manipulation of those uneducated people through threats, intimidation and suppression. It has generated absolutely no scientific information of any value in the past twenty decades, probably more. Inventing chess is not a major scientific advance!

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Old 08-26-2011, 07:52 AM
 
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I don't remember the title of the book this came from, but...

What is truth? It's some crazy thing my neighbor believes. He tells me what he thinks and I say, 'Yeah, yeah--ain't it the truth?'
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:45 AM
 
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You're funny, finalmessage. Your own quote is specifically a metaphor; it says that "the state of a disbeliever" is LIKE a wave.

!

the metaphor is about the deeds of the disbelievers

and it is not like wave

but is is like

darkness in avast deep sea, overwhelmed with waves topped by waves, topped by dark clouds, (layers of) darkness upon darkness: if a man stretches out his hand, he can hardly see it!


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The Q'ran does not reference undersea currents at all. You are so easily dragged long by that philosophical ring in your nose!

!


here are another translations.

may be you could get it.
Or like utter darkness in the deep sea: there covers it a wave above which is another wave, above which is a cloud, (layers of) utter darkness one above another; when he holds out his hand, he is almost unable to see it; and to whomsoever Allah does not give light, he has no light.


Or as darkness on a vast, abysmal sea. There covereth him a wave, above which is a wave, above which is a cloud. Layer upon layer of darkness. When he holdeth out his hand he scarce can see it. And he for whom Allah hath not appointed light, for him there is no light.
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Realize this: Islam is founded in technical & scientific ignorance, in manipulation of those uneducated people through threats, intimidation and suppression. It has generated absolutely no scientific information of any value in the past twenty decades, probably more.!


it seems that you do not know the objective of such post.

i am not trying to say that the Quran is a scientific book

or It has generated absolutely scientific information of any value in the past twenty decades

what i want to say is that the quran is from Allah and in it it says that

the disbelievers will go to hell and even the christians and the Jews if they do not believe that Allah is the only god and Muhammed is his messenger

(if they have heared about him)

and similarly all the other people


and i am supporting my claim by posting these scientific reference in the Quran.
to proof that the Quran is from the one who created you and you will return to him




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. Inventing chess is not a major scientific advance!


The hidden Islamic sciences, A MUST SEE PROGRAM (part1) - YouTube



Why are Muslims backward in Science - YouTube
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Old 08-26-2011, 01:38 PM
 
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here is other miracle in quran ALLAH [GTH] said [ And it is He who has released [simultaneously] the two seas, one fresh and sweet and one salty and bitter, and He placed between them a barrier and prohibiting partition And it is He who has created from water a human being and made him [a relative by] lineage and marriage. And ever is your Lord competent [concerning creation] But they worship rather than Allah that which does not benefit them or harm them, and the disbeliever is ever, against his Lord, an assistant [to Satan].
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Old 08-26-2011, 01:43 PM
 
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so does the undersea darkness change? your verse calls for DARK CLOUDS, does that mean if it is not cloudy then the sea "weather/waves" change? - This is streaching and fabrication, not factual. Also as another post said it says "LIKE A"... there is nothing scientific here
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Old 08-26-2011, 01:46 PM
 
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here is other miracle in quran ALLAH [GTH] said [ And it is He who has released [simultaneously] the two seas, one fresh and sweet and one salty and bitter, and He placed between them a barrier and prohibiting partition And it is He who has created from water a human being and made him [a relative by] lineage and marriage. And ever is your Lord competent [concerning creation] But they worship rather than Allah that which does not benefit them or harm them, and the disbeliever is ever, against his Lord, an assistant [to Satan].
This idea is completly scientifically wrong. Infact all the oceans are connected, there is no barrier, and there are much more than "one" fresh water lakes. So the "two seas" thing here is completly wrong.
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Old 08-26-2011, 06:36 PM
 
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so does the undersea darkness change? your verse calls for DARK CLOUDS, does that mean if it is not cloudy then the sea "weather/waves" change? - This is streaching and fabrication, not factual. Also as another post said it says "LIKE A"... there is nothing scientific here

and that is another scientific fact

after 200 meters down , the sea start to become dark

and 1400 years ago no one could could dive to that level to know this fact

and i think the dark clouds just to make the things more bold

like a very very cold glass of water and some one add ice to it.

and it is not only the clouds

but also the inside wave that reduce the light of the sun



clouds + inside waves + deep sea point + and may be at night = very dark


The darkness of oceans and disappearance of light was mentioned in the Noble Quran and confirmed by Science.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:34 PM
 
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This idea is completly scientifically wrong. Infact all the oceans are connected, there is no barrier, and there are much more than "one" fresh water lakes. So the "two seas" thing here is completly wrong.
this videos will explain a lot

MIRACLE OF ALLAH TWO SEAS - YouTube

Meeting of 2 sea-Skagen Denmark - YouTube
‫so GLORY TO ALLAH BY THE NAME OF ALLAH [The Most Merciful
Taught the Qur'an,
Created man,
[And] taught him eloquence.
The sun and the moon [move] by precise calculation,
And the stars and trees prostrate.
And the heaven He raised and imposed the balance
That you not transgress within the balance.
And establish weight in justice and do not make deficient the balance.And the earth He laid [out] for the creatures.
Therein is fruit and palm trees having sheaths [of dates]
And grain having husks and scented plants.
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
He created man from clay like [that of] pottery.
And He created the jinn from a smokeless flame of fire.
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
[He is] Lord of the two sunrises and Lord of the two sunsets.
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
He released the two seas, meeting [side by side];
Between them is a barrier [so] neither of them transgresses.
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
From both of them emerge pearl and coral.
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
And to Him belong the ships [with sails] elevated in the sea like mountains.
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
Everyone upon the earth will perish,
And there will remain the Face of your Lord, Owner of Majesty and Honor.
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
Whoever is within the heavens and earth asks Him; every day He is bringing about a matter.
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
We will attend to you, O prominent beings.
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?]
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:36 PM
 
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my brother final message also here is miracles name of ALLAH [GTH][اللة] written in ocean and lot of things
Allah written on things, wonder of allah, wunder islam - YouTube
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