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1) Those terrorists could care less about allah , or life for that matter
2) Had they not followed through, they knew , just like we know they would have been hunted down tortured and killed ...Threats to family members as well.
3) They were all seen in topless bars and all that goes with it while in training. I'm tired of being fooled on this.
4) Every terrorist item in Islam is driven by conform or pay the consequences. If a muslim disobeys a group with these designs and plans....does he live?
of course not... ... you think they were saying there Islam chants or....hanging out in the strip club?...and why not they were on the way to see Allah shortly....its all threat fear...overall they prob did it in opinion to save their families from being tortured . We see what we see....people buried up to waste and stoned to death....old ladies whipped for carrying a young guys groceries....theres no end...Now imagine living under these situations and the AMOUNT we do NOT hear about..would fear & threat be a part of existence from an early age in these lands....? It would be everything.
Point 1 is probably true for many of them. There is no way they could be a terrorist and actually follow Islam.
Point 2 is doubtful. But I am only basing that on the biographies of the terrorist I have been able to find biographies of. Many of them grew up in Western countries, hated the government of the land they lived in, were anti-social with few family contacts and were recent reverts to Islam. (A major exception is the ones from Palestine)
Some examples:
The names are click-able links to their biographies
Point 3 relates to what is known about the ones connected with 9/11. their biographies for the most part shows them to have had long histories of anti social and anti Islamic behavior.
Point 4 seems to assume that Muslims live under the control of a mosque or some religious leader. To some extent this is true for the Shi'a of the Twelver Sect (Iran) who consider the Ayatoullah as speaking speaking for God(swt) and must be followed. they make up less than 1% of the world's Muslims
Those taught in the Sunni path are directed to not follow any human leader based on their words. We are to follow no man, but follow Allaah(swt) alone.
Woodrow, these links are showing investigation and not facts. Of course they hated everything. They were all part of the gang born out of the Islamic belief. Traveling, living and associating with the terrorist individuals in distant lands . Once connected with these people there would be no backing out. I remember watching a clip on TV about a year after the un-speakable incident. It was a camera inside a Restaurant in an Islamic country ...they were watching the incident which everyone has trouble watching, they all got out of their chairs and exclaimed bullseye...now...maybe some are now living in countries which will cater to education ect, and have a changed approach. I'm not buying the changed approach, because its convenience related. Thats my deal, or opinion. These people in the restaurant appeared to be a random group of average regular Muslims. Its in the nature of people who are dumb to applaud what is thought to be the enemies demise. Thats the problem. The developed countries and people are believed to be evil....theres no arguing that...and then...the Islamic people want to infiltrate to take advantage of progress, while secretly believing the society is evil....Immigration which causes this kind of contrast gets what it deserves.. chaos.
Woodrow, these links are showing investigation and not facts. Of course they hated everything. They were all part of the gang born out of the Islamic belief. Traveling, living and associating with the terrorist individuals in distant lands . Once connected with these people there would be no backing out. I remember watching a clip on TV about a year after the un-speakable incident. It was a camera inside a Restraunt in an Islamic country ...they were watching the incident which everyone has trouble watching, they all got out of their chairs and exclaimed bullseye...now...maybe some are now living in countries which will cater to education ect, and have a changed approach. I'm not buying the changed approach, because its convenience related. Thats my deal, or opinion. These people in the restraunt appeared to be a random group of average regular Muslims.
Is it safe to assume they were in Arab ruled countries? While most Arabs do try to follow Islam, there are many Wahhabites in the Arab Nations that Westerners view as being Muslims, also the Arab rulers tend to be corrupt and misuse the people in the Arab lands.
Your running a circle around the question. Absolutely the terrorists thought they were doing Allah's will and that they would go to paradise.
But my question has always been how to these terrorists justify killing innocents and calling them collateral damage.
How could they be innocent if they were kafirs? Kafirs deserve death because they do not submit to Allah. That's bad news for most of us here in the West.
How could they be innocent if they were kafirs? Kafirs deserve death because they do not submit to Allah. That's bad news for most of us here in the West.
Such is the game of words we play with muslims. They're not really lying when they say they don't want to hurt innocents....because no one is innocent in their eyes.
No,they were doing what the Christian God wanted them to do in order to make Muslims look bad.
OK enough for sarcasm. but to ask that question is the same as me asking you if that is what the one God, we both worship, wanted.
The question itself is reducing God to having Human attributes and weaknesses. The concept of wanting or not wanting is a human concept and beyond the attributes of God. He has no needs, wants or desires as we Humans understand such to be.
We do know that God made us with free will. We do know he has never commanded any Human to do evil. But man does do evil because it is God's will mankind has free choice.
No,they were doing what the Christian God wanted them to do in order to make Muslims look bad.
OK enough for sarcasm. but to ask that question is the same as me asking you if that is what the one God, we both worship, wanted.
The question itself is reducing God to having Human attributes and weaknesses. The concept of wanting or not wanting is a human concept and beyond the attributes of God. He has no needs, wants or desires as we Humans understand such to be.
We do know that God made us with free will. We do know he has never commanded any Human to do evil. But man does do evil because it is God's will mankind has free choice.
So short answer is that you condemn the 9/11 bombers and they were acting against the will of allah?
And no...we don't worship the same God. God is a Trinity--3 persons, 1 God. If you want to say that allah is God the Father, and is God along with God the Son, and God the Spirit, we may agree.
Such is the game of words we play with muslims. They're not really lying when they say they don't want to hurt innocents....because no one is innocent in their eyes.
The worst part of all this? The saddest part? Peaceful Muslims all over the world get branded as homicidal monsters because of fundamental "Death to America" Islam.
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Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism
