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Old 01-18-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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Yup. You're right. Rodney is NOT dead; he has NOT left the building! My mistake. Sorry Rod!
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Old 01-19-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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Hey, that might be helpful at getting rid of all the corrupting religions.
Islam is the biggest threat to freedom, IMHO.

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Old 01-20-2012, 09:30 AM
 
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Islam is the biggest threat to freedom, IMHO.
I think it may be an immediate threat to people in many parts of the world and a bigger threat to itself (interfaith differences that lead to violence (Sunni vs Shia vs Sufi vs XXX). If I was looking to join a Faith, Islam would be last on the list due to examples of what happens in countries in the middle east that call themselves Islamic Republics. Why would anyone want to become more like Saudi Arabia, Iran or any even one of the more secular countries like Turkey.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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I think it may be an immediate threat to people in many parts of the world and a bigger threat to itself (interfaith differences that lead to violence (Sunni vs Shia vs Sufi vs XXX).
Heck, religious infighting didn't slow down the spread of Christianity.

In fact, that is why my ancestors came here from England in 1639. They were tired of the religious hassles they faced in Yorkshire so they came to Boston and set up shop.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:41 AM
 
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I think it may be an immediate threat to people in many parts of the world and a bigger threat to itself (interfaith differences that lead to violence (Sunni vs Shia vs Sufi vs XXX). If I was looking to join a Faith, Islam would be last on the list due to examples of what happens in countries in the middle east that call themselves Islamic Republics. Why would anyone want to become more like Saudi Arabia, Iran or any even one of the more secular countries like Turkey.
IMHO, Islam has prisoners, not members. If you wanted to invent a humanity-wide "cancer", you would be hard-pressed to beat Islam as the global malignancy. No block, neighborhood, town, city, state, nation or continent has ever been improved by the addition of Islam. On the contrary, wherever you find it, you find degradation, backwardness and rot, and the purer the Islam, the worse people live.
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:01 AM
 
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IMHO, Islam has prisoners, not members. If you wanted to invent a humanity-wide "cancer", you would be hard-pressed to beat Islam as the global malignancy. No block, neighborhood, town, city, state, nation or continent has ever been improved by the addition of Islam. On the contrary, wherever you find it, you find degradation, backwardness and rot, and the purer the Islam, the worse people live.
Yet at it's height the Arab world was the Center of Civilization, Science and social reform. while the Western world was in the dark ages and on the verge of collapse.
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:33 AM
 
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Yet at it's height the Arab world was the Center of Civilization, Science and social reform. while the Western world was in the dark ages and on the verge of collapse.
That may be true but then what went wrong? It is really hard to imagine a once enlightened culture falling back into the dark ages.

Perhaps the Greek influences lost traction as it spread.

If your claim were true, then you folk should have been way ahead of the western world but regressed to what? Barbarism?
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:21 AM
 
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Heck, religious infighting didn't slow down the spread of Christianity.

Good point. In fact, that is why my ancestors came here from England in 1639. They were tired of the religious hassles they faced in Yorkshire so they came to Boston and set up shop.
Don't get me started on Christianity now. Every group has their moments of enlightenment, It's just when the Religous establishment see's science as a threat that it stalls out civilizations.

If your book: The "Quran", the "Bible", "BOM" or the "Torah" contradicts modern science and physics and the Clerics are Dogmatic there’s going to be a battle. If the "Bad book" wins and we believe that Pigs can fly we have to pretend that physics somehow doesn't apply? If you really believe Mohammad split the moon, Lot's wife turned to Salt, or David took out a giant with a sling shot you can be convinced that reality doesn't exist. Just because it happened 1500 or more years ago doesn't make it any more believable. Well, Getting taken out by a sling shot could be real!

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Old 01-20-2012, 11:56 AM
 
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Yet at it's height the Arab world was the Center of Civilization, Science and social reform. while the Western world was in the dark ages and on the verge of collapse.
There is a saying that Forest Gump said that describes the situation perfectly, if only I could remember it.

Oh yes, I remember "Islam Happens"!
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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That may be true but then what went wrong? It is really hard to imagine a once enlightened culture falling back into the dark ages.

Perhaps the Greek influences lost traction as it spread.

If your claim were true, then you folk should have been way ahead of the western world but regressed to what? Barbarism?
You forget - Islam Happens, and it just "Happened" in the Arab world severak hundred years ago.
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