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Old 03-27-2008, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Jesus is and always will be a Jew, so he certainly was not Christian.
The fact that most Jews do not accept Jesus as Christ does not make Jesus a non-Jew, nor does it make him Christian.
The word Christ means annointed, with what? Light.

His name means Jesus ( I shall be powerful) Christ ( when annointed with light).

He was both. That makes Him an Annointed Jew, which made Him Christ.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Originally Posted by doc1By asking God to pass him this cup Jesus admitted to be afraid, so he essentially admitted to be a coward. Being afraid is fearing for your mortality, which only is human.
Many Christians see humanity as a sin, since they believe that people are born sinful (thus human).
I do not consider fearing for your life a sin, I would only think of it as logical, but you should not let fear lead your life.
When you allow to let fear lead you, you'll only be travelling on the path of (self)destruction.
He did not say this out of fear, i know thats how man interprets it based on a mortal understanding.
Jesus knew exactly what His path was, He was asking that he could lay His life down for the sins of man, the cup being his physical body.

The mis understanding of the cup being an escape from His destiny is a false impression by man.

And fear is a sin. It is the absence of love

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Old 03-27-2008, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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doc1, He was born from a woman, a human, he had human traits -50 % of him was human going by that.. He wouldn't have been able to die, had he been perfect.....I think you should prove he was perfect rather than me prove he wasn't ...I don't believe in god so to me, if he even lived, he was a 100% human..
He was born of a sinless woman.

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Old 03-27-2008, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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Mary was human therefor she was not free of sin, no humans are, she descended from Adam and Eve...So that I can't agree with..She lived with Joseph, yet wasn't married to him.I believe that was a sin back then too.
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Mary was human therefor she was not free of sin, no humans are, she descended from Adam and Eve...So that I can't agree with..She lived with Joseph, yet wasn't married to him.I believe that was a sin back then too.
Born into sin, overcame sin through seeking God. She had constant angelic teaching while growing up in the temple. She was there until she conceived.

She had no sin.

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Old 03-27-2008, 11:23 AM
 
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So then all humans who seek god and live like she did are considered without sin?
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:30 AM
 
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So then all humans who seek god and live like she did are considered without sin?
Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all else shall be added.

Yes. THey have overcome sin in their lives and are quickened...born of God.
The great life of Christ is the pattern to perfection. Many are called, few chosen, or elect. The chosen are those that choose to live as he lived, and walk as He walked.

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Old 03-27-2008, 11:11 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Don't agree. Being a coward is not having courage. In spite of His fear He still said to His Father "Your will..."
You have to be a coward 1st in order to be brave, otherwise bravery is just the absence of fear.

Bravery is to act in spite of your fear, which Jesus did because he realised that his cause was far worthier than his life.

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The mis understanding of the cup being an escape from His destiny is a false impression by man.

And fear is a sin. It is the absence of love
Fear itself is not a sin, but allowing yourself to only be lead by it could be sin. Fear does not necessarily mean the absence of love, because you can be brave because you are afraid to lose someone you love.

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The word Christ means annointed, with what? Light.
If I'm not mistaken, i
n the Jewish religion you don't need to be a direct descendant of God to be anointed by God.
Besides aren't we all God's children?
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:19 PM
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Location: Too far from MSG
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I have been saying this for over 3 years, and now it's starting to get noticed. We have much to fear in the bloodless coup over the western world by the intentional heavy procreation of Muslims. Don't believe me, see this:

http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/03/27/video-geert-wilders-fitna-movie-released/

Beware, this video takes about 16 minutes and you should not show it to your kids. It's way too disturbing.

Bottom line, Islam does not and will not tolerate or coexist with ANYTHING else including Christianity. Don't believe me and go to the CIA website that contains the religious mixes of the middle eastern countries and outside of Syria and Lebanon, there are almost NO Christians left. Very disturbing indeed.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/countrylisting.html (broken link)

Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:14 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Be afraid. Be very afraid.
You mean we should kill all the Islam instead of turn the other cheek?
Are you implying that we should ignore Jesus and listen to you?
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