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View Poll Results: Is Islam compatible with Western values?
Yes 14 15.38%
No 58 63.74%
It Depends 19 20.88%
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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Yes or No? Feel free to leave a post explaining your views if you desire.

Edit: by values I mean the tenets of democracy: human rights, freedom of religion, the right of both genders to vote, a democratic system of government (ie: republics or constitutional monarchies), etc.

islam is a horrible ideology for human rights

Why NOT !!
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Old 07-23-2012, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Saudi Arabia
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Again Woodrow my issue is instead of saying it was horrific and leaving it at that there is the need to say: well non Muslims did the same thing. My point is not to say that a larger percentage of Muslims are terrorists because the 9/11 damage was greater. My issues is the magnitude of the devastation and death.

Surely you are correct they did but there is no comparison between the death of 3 vs 3000+


That is my issue. I agree they were all wrong and I don't think that the actions of those who committed 9/11 ought to be visited on all Muslims. But I do have issue that it needs to become a deflection.

None of it is justified, it is all horrific. I also agree with what you are saying that non muslims have committed acts of terrorism.

Jazzymom, two points short :

* 9/11 was American play ( CIA)

* I recommend any American to sees crimes his/her Government in the world first then talking about Muslims We Muslims are the errors for the organization does not represent us but you errors are represent your Government (USA) not Individuals

that is my issue too
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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* 9/11 was American play ( CIA)
Can anyone explain this statement?
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Can anyone explain this statement?
The word play was used instead of the word action. Keep in mind the poster does not speak English as a first Language.

In much of the Islamic world the people do not believe 9/11 was done by Muslims. Through out the Mideast it seems to be a widely held view it was a CIA conspiracy lead by GWB.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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The word play was used instead of the word action. Keep in mind the poster does not speak English as a first Language.
In much of the Islamic world the people do not believe 9/11 was done by Muslims. Through out the Mideast it seems to be a widely held view it was a CIA conspiracy lead by GWB.
A convenient delusion . . . but off topic. The reason Islam is incompatible with Western values is that it is a theocracy/deen that does not believe in the separation of religion and state, period. That makes it incompatible with ALL secular societies on the face of the earth. The global reach and resources of its fanatic members present a genuine threat to those societies.
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Old 08-03-2012, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Niflheim
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Guess you haven't heard of the Spanish Inquisition........ The problem with many Islamic nations is that politicians are interpreting the Koran's laws into actual laws. Where things may be symbolism, it is taken at face value thus laws such as cutting off ones right hand for stealing a loaf of bread. I predict there will be a shift in Islamic nations the way there was in Christian nations
Sounds just like Christians too me.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:52 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA (Sandy Springs)
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It's just as compatible or not as Christianity.

The Bible contains a ton of incompatible ideas like slavery, misogyny, etc. Modern western Christians just do not follow those any longer. Similarly, western Muslims do not take certain passages of the Koran as what they should still do today.

The problem with Islam in the world is that there are still a lot of backward countries that view the Koran as literally true in every respect. Christianity has not had a good history with human rights either when people viewed the Bible that way.
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Sitting beside Walden Pond
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there are still a lot of backward countries that view the Koran as literally true in every respect.
That's an interesting statement.

Are there any Muslims in this forum who do not view the Koran as literally true in every respect?
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Old 08-04-2012, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Hopefully Islam is not.


I am not compatible with perverted "western values."



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Old 08-04-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I agree, Islam is about 400 years behind Christianity.

400 years before Islam becomes as apostate as modern "Christianity" [ie, baalism] ??

Maybe there will be hope for Islam after it witnesses the perverted death throes of pseudo-Christianity.



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