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Old 08-04-2012, 05:18 PM
 
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Were there creatures on earth before Adam and Eve?

this verse from the Quran makes the reader to ask a question

the verse is
Behold, thy Lord said to the angels:
"I will create a vicegerent on earth."
They said:
"Wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?"
He said:
"I know what ye know not." The Noble Quran.
and the question is

How did the angels know that the vicegerent will make mischief therein and shed blood?

and about how many years since Adam and Eve came down to earth?
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:52 PM
 
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Why ask a question when you already know the answer?

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[LEFT]In this verse, there is a declaration of the potentialities that man can have; s/he is a vicegerent of God, but factually s/he has the power to mischief as the angels perceived. The angels cannot be disobedient to Allah, but they expressed their limitations when they said that they could not see the wisdom of sending Adam to the Earth. They could see one fact: man has the ability to destroy and fight. The wisdom of creating “[/LEFT]a vicegerent on earth”[LEFT] lies in Allah's Knowledge. [/LEFT]"I know what ye know not"[LEFT].[/LEFT]
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http://www.esscr.org/g203_2.htm
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:34 AM
 
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Yep, all kinds of dinosaurs, sea creatures, etc.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:39 AM
 
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They could see one fact: man has the ability to destroy and fight.
http://www.esscr.org/g203_2.htm

thank you .

how could they see the fact the man has the ability to destroy and fight. when the man was not created yet ?

and they did not know how he would look like and they did not now know his properties are.

in the islamic books there are more than one answer and may be one of them is correct and may be none of them is correct.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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Yep, all kinds of dinosaurs, sea creatures, etc.

including creatures that could look like close to human?
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:40 AM
 
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Were there creatures on earth before Adam and Eve?
What year were Adam and Eve created?
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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What year were Adam and Eve created?
I have not seen any place in the Qur'an or Ahadith were that is named or indicated.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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I have not seen any place in the Qur'an or Ahadith were that is named or indicated.
Exactly. Which is why you need that information first before establishing what creatures existed "before" them.
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Old 08-17-2012, 11:45 AM
 
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Exactly. Which is why you need that information first before establishing what creatures existed "before" them.
That information need not necessarily come from the Qur'an. The Qur'an is not a Science Manual nor a course in Biology..

While the Qur'an does not dwell much on the creation especially in terms of Dates we can not rule out there were creatures on earth before the creation of man.

The existence of prehuman life does not contradict anything in the Qur'an. There is substantial evidence of life redating humans such as the fossil records. No reason to not accept it as true as it is not contradictory to the Qur'an.
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:15 PM
 
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Naturally, I'm joking, because the concept of Adam and Eve (rather Adam and the unnamed woman) in the Koran or the sunnah is totally fictitious. And yes, the Koran is a book on spirituality and indeed not a book with any useful science in it and we know that if it were it would have mentioned the creation of Eve first and then Adam, as that is the biological sequence.

If you ask a question on prior lifeforms from the spiritual side and ignore reality, then your answer is correct and it is a case of ruling out what is not mentioned. However, if you take reality then the answer is: of course. After all, how should humans evolve, if not from other creatures?

So the question is a bit wonky.
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