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Old 11-11-2012, 01:14 PM
 
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The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) direct his followers to go to a fair christian ruler .


persecutions and hurts started again the followers of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) from the pagans
and the situation got so extremely grave and no longer tolerable in the middle of the fifth year of prophethood

the prophet permitted some of his followers to seek asylum there in Abyssinia because he knew that
the king of Abyssinia was a fair christian ruler who would not wrong any of his subordinates.

and they did go to his country.

the pagans did not like that and could not tolerate the prospect of a secure haven available for the Muslims in Abyssinia (Ethiopia),

so they despatched two staunch envoys to demand their extradition.

They had taken with them valuable gifts to the king and his clergy, and had been able to win some of the courtiers over to their side.

The pagan envoys claimed that the Muslim refugees should be expelled from Abyssinia (Ethiopia) and made over to them, on the ground that they had abandoned the religion of their forefathers,
and their leader was preaching a religion different from theirs and from that of the king.

see what happend between the christian king and the muslims and the pagans.


The Message(do know the real meaning about Islam) In English 2 - YouTube
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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You mean King Negus.. that's the thing with Christians..following Christ's example and treat those they meet with kindness. Shame that kindness was not always reciprocated in later days, when the Quran changed its mind about Christians and Jews and it recommended they be killed...

By the way I'm impressed with the quality of the film..I had no idea such technology existed at that time...or is it a more recent interpretation of a story from long long ago..
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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You mean King Negus.. that's the thing with Christians..following Christ's example and treat those they meet with kindness
Lo! those who believe, and those who are Jews, and Sabaeans, and Christians -
Whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right
- there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve. The Noble Quran.

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Shame that kindness was not always reciprocated in later days, when the Quran changed its mind about Christians and Jews and it recommended they be killed...
Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land
- it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.
And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidence, and signs,
even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits
(e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land! The Noble Quran.

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By the way I'm impressed with the quality of the film..I had no idea such technology existed at that time...or is it a more recent interpretation of a story from long long ago..
that was only 8 minutes here is the full movie.


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Old 11-11-2012, 02:47 PM
 
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Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land
- it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.
And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidence, and signs,
even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits
(e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land! The Noble Quran.
Very similar to this quote from the Jewish Talmud.


Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world.
- Mishnah Sanhedrin 4:5; Babylonian Talmud Tractate Sanhedrin 37a

But there is an important difference in the Quran's version, with the addition of "in retaliation for murder or the speeding of mischief in the land" which lends it to believe that in certain circumstances to kill a person is OK.

Forgot to add the source of that quote..http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talmud... No doubt you will consider it to be totally unreliable or biased against Islam ..or something..
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:42 AM
 
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You mean King Negus.. that's the thing with Christians..following Christ's example and treat those they meet with kindness. ..

King Negus embraced Islam

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Very similar to this quote from the Jewish Talmud
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there are many things similar in the Quran and the previous holy books
but the Quran in arabic is exatly as said by Allah but the current previous holy books contains many things can not be his saying or a translation of his saying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWZFcW-8ag


Pornography in the Bible - Ahmed Deedat - Part 2 - YouTube

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Old 11-12-2012, 07:02 AM
 
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Christians believe in Allah (God), so according to Islam - Will they get into heaven?
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:08 AM
 
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Christians believe in Allah (God), so according to Islam - Will they get into heaven?
they will go to heaven if they believe that Allah is the Only god and Jesus is his slave and messenger and Moses is his slave and messenger and Mohammad is his slave and messenger (if they heared about him) and they believe in all the true Prophets and messengers of Allah.
and they do worship any thing else with Allah.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:14 AM
 
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How's that "killing" thing work out for your daughters?
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:51 AM
 
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How's that "killing" thing work out for your daughters?


a young man came to the The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said, and said:

“O Messenger of Allaah, give me permission to commit zina.”
The people turned to him to rebuke him, telling him to be quiet.
But the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“Leave him alone.”
Then he came closer to him and told him to sit down. He said:
“Would you like that for your mother?”
He said: “No, by Allaah, may Allaah make me your ransom.”
He said: “No, and the people do not like it for their mothers either.”
Then he said: “Would you like it for your daughter?”
He said: “No, by Allaah, may Allaah make me your ransom.”
He said: “No, and the people do not like it for their daughters either.”
He said: Would you like it for your sister?”
He said: “No, by Allaah, may Allaah make me your ransom.”
He said: “No, and the people do not like it for their sisters either.”
He said: “Would you like it for your paternal aunt?”
He said: “No, by Allaah, may Allaah make me your ransom.”
He said: “No, and the people do not like it for their paternal aunts either.”
He said: “Would you like it for your maternal aunt?”
He said: “No, by Allaah, may Allaah make me your ransom.”
He said: “No, and the people do not like it for their maternal aunts either.”
Then he placed his hand on him and said: “O Allaah, forgive his sins and cleanse his heart, and protect his chastity.”
And after that the young man never thought of any such thing again.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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King Negus embraced Islam

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there are many things similar in the Quran and the previous holy books
but the Quran in arabic is exatly as said by Allah but the current previous holy books contains many things can not be his saying or a translation of his saying


Pornography in the Bible - Ahmed Deedat - Part 1 - YouTube



Pornography in the Bible - Ahmed Deedat - Part 2 - YouTube
I ask if you have posted the above links from Deedat in error. Because they are distasteful and false, you should be ashamed. I thought you better than this. Disappointed..
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