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Old 11-22-2012, 07:04 PM
 
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Allah's Apostle wrote to Caesar and invited him to Islam and sent him his letter with Dihya Al-Kalbi whom
Allah's Apostle ordered to hand it over to the Governor of Busra who would forward it to Caesar.
Caesar as a sign of gratitude to Allah, had walked from Hims to Ilya (i.e. Jerusalem) when Allah had granted Him victory over the Persian forces.
So, when the letter of Allah's Apostle reached Caesar, he said after reading t,
'Seek for me any one of his people! (Arabs of Quraish tribe) if present here, in order to ask him about Allah's Apostle.

At that time Abu Sufyan bin Harb was in Sham with some men frown Quraish who had come (to Sham) as merchants during the truce that had been concluded between Allah's Apostle; and the infidels of Quraish.

Abu Sufyan said, Caesar's messenger found us somewhere in Sham so he took me and my companions to Ilya and we were admitted into Ceasar's court to find him sitting in his royal court wearing a crown and surrounded by the senior dignitaries of the Byzantine.

He said to his translator. 'Ask them who amongst them is a close relation to the man who claims to be a prophet."
Abu Sufyan added, "I replied, 'I am the nearest relative to him.'
He asked, 'What degree of relationship do you have with him?'
I replied, 'He is my cousin,' and there was none of Bani Abu Manaf in the caravan except myself.
Caesar said, 'Let him come nearer.'
He then ordered that my companions stand behind me near my shoulder and said to his translator,
'Tell his companions that I am going to ask this man about the man who claims to be a prophet. If he tells a lie, they should contradict him immediately."

Abu Sufyan added, "By Allah ! Had it not been shameful that my companions label me a liar, I would not have spoken the truth about him when he asked me. But I considered it shameful to be called a liar by my companions. So I told the truth.

He then said to his translator, 'Ask him what kind of family does he belong to.'
I replied, 'He belongs to a noble family amongst us.'
He said, 'Have anybody else amongst you ever claimed the same before him?
'I replied, 'No.'
He said, 'Had you ever blamed him for telling lies before he claimed what he claimed? '
I replied, 'No.'
He said, 'Was anybody amongst his ancestors a king?'
I replied, 'No.'
He said, "Do the noble or the poor follow him?'
I replied, 'It is the poor who follow him.'
He said, 'Are they increasing or decreasing (day by day)?'
I replied,' They are increasing.'
He said, 'Does anybody amongst those who embrace his (the Prophet's) Religion become displeased and then discard his Religion?'.
I replied, 'No. '
He said, 'Does he break his promises?
I replied, 'No, but we are now at truce with him and we are afraid that he may betray us."

Abu Sufyan added, "Other than the last sentence, I could not say anything against him.

Caesar then asked, 'Have you ever had a war with him?'
I replied, 'Yes.'
He said, 'What was the outcome of your battles with him?'
I replied, 'The result was unstable; sometimes he was victorious and sometimes we.'
He said, 'What does he order you to do?'
I said, 'He tells us to worship Allah alone, and not to worship others along with Him, and to leave all that our fore-fathers used to worship. He orders us to pray, give in charity, be chaste, keep promises and return what is entrusted to us.'

When I had said that, Caesar said to his translator,

'Say to him: I ask you about his lineage and your reply was that he belonged to a noble family. In fact, all the apostles came from the noblest lineage of their nations.

Then I questioned you whether anybody else amongst you had claimed such a thing, and your reply was in the negative. If the answer had been in the affirmative, I would have thought that this man was following a claim that had been said before him.

When I asked you whether he was ever blamed for telling lies, your reply was in the negative, so I took it for granted that a person who did not tell a lie about (others) the people could never tell a lie about Allah.

Then I asked you whether any of his ancestors was a king. Your reply was in the negative, and if it had been in the affirmative, I would have thought that this man wanted to take back his ancestral kingdom.

When I asked you whether the rich or the poor people followed him, you replied that it was the poor who followed him. In fact, such are the followers of the apostles.

Then I asked you whether his followers were increasing or decreasing. You replied that they were increasing. In fact, this is the result of true faith till it is complete (in all respects).

I asked you whether there was anybody who, after embracing his religion, became displeased and discarded his religion; your reply was in the negative. In fact, this is the sign of true faith, for when its cheerfulness enters and mixes in the hearts completely, nobody will be displeased with it.

I asked you whether he had ever broken his promise. You replied in the negative. And such are the apostles; they never break their promises.

When I asked you whether you fought with him and he fought with you, you replied that he did, and that sometimes he was victorious and sometimes you. Indeed, such are the apostles; they are put to trials and the final victory is always theirs.


Then I asked you what he ordered you. You replied that he ordered you to worship Allah alone and not to worship others along with Him, to leave all that your fore-fathers used to worship, to offer prayers, to speak the truth, to be chaste, to keep promises, and to return what is entrusted to you.

These are really the qualities of a prophet who, I knew (from the previous Scriptures) would appear, but I did not know that he would be from amongst you. If what you say should be true, he will very soon occupy the earth under my feet, and if I knew that I would reach him definitely, I would go immediately to meet Him; and were I with him, then I would certainly wash his feet.' "



Abu Sufyan added, "Caesar then asked for the letter of Allah's Apostle and it was read. Its contents were:--

"In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful (This letter is) from Muhammad, the slave of Allah, and His Apostle, to Heraculius, the Ruler of the Byzantine. Peace be upon the followers of guidance. Now then, I invite you to Islam (i.e. surrender to Allah), embrace Islam and you will be safe; embrace Islam and Allah will bestow on you a double reward. But if you reject this invitation of Islam, you shall be responsible for misguiding the peasants (i.e. your nation).

O people of the Scriptures! Come to a word common to you and us and you, that we worship. None but Allah, and that we associate nothing in worship with Him; and that none of us shall take others as Lords besides Allah. Then if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are (they who have surrendered (unto Him)..(3.64)


Abu Sufyan added, "When Heraclius had finished his speech, there was a great hue and cry caused by the Byzantine Royalties surrounding him, and there was so much noise that I did not understand what they said. So, we were turned out of the court.

When I went out with my companions and we were alone, I said to them, 'Verily, Ibn Abi Kabsha's (i.e. the Prophet's) affair has gained power. This is the King of Bani Al-Asfar fearing him." Abu Sufyan added, "

By Allah, I remained low and was sure that his religion would be victorious till Allah converted me to Islam, though I disliked it "
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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the Message the movie about the final messenger from Allah to us.

the move start by sending three letters one of them to Caesar Heraclius


The Message - The beginning of Islam Movies English HD - YouTube
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:27 PM
 
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may Allah reward you my brother

thanks
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:55 PM
 
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Truth teller it is an interesting take on a historical figure, from an Islamic perspective. Of course there are other points of view on the same person...

Islamic view of the Emperor
In Islamic and Arab histories Heraclius is the only Roman Emperor who is discussed at any length.[41] Owing to his role as the Roman Emperor at the time Islam emerged, he was remembered in Arabic literature, such as the Islamic hadith and sira. Outside of Islamic sources there is no evidence to suggest Heraclius ever heard of Islam,[42] and it is possible that he and his advisors actually viewed the Muslims as some special sect of Jews.[38]
In Surah 30, the Qur'an refers to the Perso-Roman wars as follows:
30:2 Certainly, the Romans will be defeated. 3 In the nearest land. After their defeat, they will rise again and win. 4 Within several years. Such is GOD's decision, both in the first prophecy, and the second. On that day, the believers shall rejoice 5 in GOD's victory. He grants victory to whomever He wills. He is the Almighty, Most Merciful.[43]
The Swahili "Utendi wa Tambuka", an epic poem composed in 1728 at Pate Island (off the shore of present-day Kenya) and depicting the wars between the Muslims and Byzantines from the former's point of view, is also known as Kyuo kya Hereḳali ("The book of Heraclius"). In that work, Heraclius is portrayed as declining the Prophet's command to renounce his false belief in Christianity; he is therefore defeated by the Muslim forces.[44] This reflects the considerable impression which this Emperor made on his Muslim foes, being still prominently remembered by Muslims more than a millennium after his death and at a considerable geographical and cultural distance.
In Muslim tradition he is seen as a just ruler of great piety, who had direct contact with the emerging Islamic forces.[45] The 14th-century scholar Ibn Kathir (d. 1373) went even further stating that "Heraclius was one of the wisest men and among the most resolute, shrewd, deep and opinionated of kings. He ruled the Romans with great leadership and splendor."[41] Historians such as Nadia Maria El-Cheikh and Lawrence Conrad note that Islamic histories even go so far as claiming that Heraclius recognized Muhammad as the true prophet and proclaimed him the messenger of God.[46][47][48]
Islamic historians often cite a letter that they claim Heraclius wrote to Muhammad "I have received your letter with your ambassador and I testify that you are the messenger of God found in our New Testament. Jesus, son of Mary, announced you."[45] According to the Muslim sources reported by El-Cheikh, he tried to convert the ruling class of the Empire, but they resisted so strongly that he reversed his course and claimed that he was just testing their faith in Christianity.[49] El-Cheikh notes that these accounts of Heraclius add "little to our historical knowledge" of the emperor, rather they are an important part of "Islamic kerygma," attempting to legitimate Muhammad's status as a prophet.

The whole version can be found....

Heraclius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia you may not agree or like this version, but the point is that different people can see the same story in a very different way. I think we should all be mindful of checking out all aspects before claiming one version is more truthful than another.

That goes for lots of things I guess.
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Old 09-13-2014, 12:46 AM
 
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Ibn Is'haque narrated from some scholars :
"Heraculius (i.e. the Caesar) said to Dihyah (Radi'Allahu Anhu)
'May Allah have mercy upon you; By Allah, i know that your friend is the Prophet sent with a mission.
He is the same person whom we were waiting and we have read about him in our Books.

Had i not feared the people of Rome (i.e. Byzantines) about (my kingdom and) myself, I have followed him.

You go to Daghdir, the Prelate, who is more powerful (in religious affairs) than me in whole of Rome.
His words are accepted more than me. Tell him about the mission of Your friend.
Then Dihyah went to him (i.e. the Prelate) and informed him about that. He said, '
By Allah, your friend is the Prophet sent with a mission. We recognize him due to his qualities and his name.
Then he went into his room, took out his (priestly) garments, and put on on white clothes. When he came out of the room, he recited the Shahadah.
The people of Rome revolted against him and killed him." [Transmitted by Abdan; Tabrani; Al Isabah vol-2, pg-216]
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Old 09-14-2014, 08:36 AM
 
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Emperor Heraclius recognized Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) as a prophet


Emperor Heraclius recognized Muhammad (s.a.w) as a prophet - YouTube


The message : Story of Islam the movie - YouTube
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