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Old 09-11-2008, 02:06 AM
Location: Egypt
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Originally Posted by MontanaGuy View Post
This is an excerpt from an article from the BBC which describes the treatment of a young woman who was a rape victim in Saudi Arabia. Although the men responsible were sent to prison the woman is being punished simply for being in the company of an unrelated male. Women are completely dependent on men in this society and the segregation of the sexes is strictly enforced. There's no such thing as a group of young men and women hanging out at the mall or engaging in any social activity that the Western world takes for granted. Saudi Arabia is one of our so called allies in the Middle East but their harsh and repressive treatment of women is a reminder of what society must have been like hundreds of years ago. The laws in Saudi Arabia are based on Islamic principles. It seems to me that the most destructive influence in Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern nations is their own religion.
If this incident is true then it's not the law of the true religion of Islam.

In Egypt the law system follow Islam laws for most things, and an incident like this has death or long time prison punishment for the rapists and No punishment for the girl.

You have to understand that saudi arabia is not a representative of Islam in many laws, cause they follow only one understanding of laws while Islam true laws are broad and merciful.

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Old 09-11-2008, 02:47 AM
Location: Egypt
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Originally Posted by Padgett2 View Post
The Male attitude towards Women seems to be almost bred into the both sexes in those societies. It makes you wonder if the mothers have any influence in raising their sons. You would think that if the mothers thought that viewpoint was wrong, they could influence their sons in some way.

But it continues on in generation after generation. It's a political as well as religious thing.

This is a good example of why a religiously influenced government is not always a good thing. Just like every other kind, it can go to extremes.
Mothers in Islam have much influence in their children's bringing up.

The prophet (pbuh) ordered us to respect the mother and to have the best relationship with her.

The holy Qur'an ordered the moslims to be kind for both parents without difference.

Holy Qur'an:

Chapter 31 verse 14:

14. And We have enjoined on man (to be good) to his parents: in travail upon travail did his mother bear him, and in years twain was his weaning: (hear the command), "Show gratitude to Me and to thy parents: to Me is (thy final) Goal.

Chapter 46 verse 15:

15. We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents: In pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth. The carrying of the (child) to his weaning is (a period of) thirty months. At length, when he reaches the age of full strength and attains forty years, he says, "O my Lord! Grant me that I may be grateful for Thy favour which Thou has bestowed upon me, and upon both my parents, and that I may work righteousness such as Thou mayest approve; and be gracious to me in my issue. Truly have I turned to Thee and truly do I bow (to Thee) in Islam."

Chapter 29 verse 8:

8. We have enjoined on man kindness to parents: but if they (either of them) strive (to force) thee to join with Me (in worship) anything of which thou hast no knowledge, obey them not. Ye have (all) to return to me, and I will tell you (the truth) of all that ye did.


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Old 09-11-2008, 04:11 AM
Location: Egypt
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Originally Posted by GCSTroop View Post
When I was deployed to Kuwait we were required to get off base driver's licenses in case we had to meet an airplane at the Kuwait City Airport instead of our base (extreme weather usually the cause). We had to go to a driving course and something they made imperative there was that if you witness an accident and someone appears as if they are dying or in need of CPR, you are not allowed to do anything for 15 minutes. In fact, we could end up in jail over there for doing so. Their thought process is such that it is Allah's will if you survive or not, and that you (even the paramedics) must wait 15 minutes prior to performing any sort of medical treatment. This is to ensure that Allah's will is not interfered with.

So, if you're ever in a Muslim country and witness a car flip over 3 times and bodies flying everywhere, you can call the paramedics but don't do anything for 15 minutes or you can end up in jail. If the paramedics are right behind the car they'll get out and wait the appropriate time before doing anything. Religion's great isn't it?
I think you probably got it wrong.

If it's like you said then it's a stupid law not related by any means to Islam.

Islam orders us by the prophet's traditions (pbuh) to have medicine and seek medical treatment.

I think if this law is true in Kawait it's applied only to the normal persons who have no medical experience so as to not make things worse for the patient.

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