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Old 09-25-2014, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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I can understand people following a God, , and respect peoples right to freedom of religion.

But co-mon,,,,,

Use one that is a positive role model.

Allah and Muhammed are pure evil.
You will find that is not what most of us believe. Especially those of us that have lived other paths. Can only speak for myself, but I have only found good in Islam and Muhammad(saws).

There are Muslims that do misuse it as a tool for evil. I have found that to happen in other religions and organizations. Many mafioso while being quite evil were/are very devout Catholics. Sort of a bit of a paradox.
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:41 PM
 
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You will find evil people in all religions, but the that does not excuse Islam for teaching, and preaching the evil.

I am no fan of Christianity, but the religion itself was a change from the old ways, of people a little more primitive.

Now we have stuff like casting the first stone, love thy enemy, turning the other cheek.

Islam preaches, if they are different and do not comply, kill them.
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Old 09-25-2014, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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You will find evil people in all religions, but the that does not excuse Islam for teaching, and preaching the evil.

I am no fan of Christianity, but the religion itself was a change from the old ways, of people a little more primitive.

Now we have stuff like casting the first stone, love thy enemy, turning the other cheek.

Islam preaches, if they are different and do not comply, kill them.
I certainly do not believe that is what Islam preaches and The majority of Muslims I personally know have never expressed such beliefs.
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Old 09-25-2014, 06:49 PM
 
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Seems like we have a never ending pattern of jihad for the last 1400 years, with the last 200 being the quietest time in Islam's history.

The current events of today pretty much show a huge number of muslims, millions who read the text the same as I do, and an uncountable number who just sit back and be quiet about it.
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Old 09-25-2014, 06:51 PM
 
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When I say preaches, I am not referring to what goes across the podium, though they are busting mosques and preachers all the time.

I am referring to what the written doctrine preaches.

There are many who have hijacked the religion, and actually do preach peace.
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Seems like we have a never ending pattern of jihad for the last 1400 years, with the last 200 being the quietest time in Islam's history.

The current events of today pretty much show a huge number of muslims, millions who read the text the same as I do, and an uncountable number who just sit back and be quiet about it.
I really have a hard time comprehending how you are arriving at the conclusions you do. But, I also used to reach the same conclusions and today can not see how I did. Probably from 65 years of being brain washed by predominately Christian mentality views.

I am not even convinced the ones committing acts of terrorism do understand the Qur'an as you do. I believe most of them do know they are being anti-Islamic. I see power struggles for wealth and a need for them to destroy Islam in order to gain control of the Mideast.

I see them mocking Islam by claiming to be Muslims.
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Old 09-25-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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But they are not being anti Islamic, they are doing everything according to islam and the orders of muhammed.
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Old 09-25-2014, 08:59 PM
 
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There is another perspective....
Some feel that ISIS is an American creation---(it certainly uses American weapons...) much the same way the Taliban and Al-Qaeda were American-made......
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...20ISIS&qscrl=1

Some fee l that the U.S.A. is the most dangerous terrorist today and has done more to bring instability, harm, and war than any other organization or country.....
America Is Running the World

Perhaps it is Americans who should be apologizing to the rest of the world for the terrorism they cause?....what do you think?.....
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:28 PM
 
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Many say it is, they also say it is jewish, same old story where muslims cannot accept responsibility for their actions, blame the other guy.
Create an excuse to justify doing what they do anyway.


What the American people and the western world need to see is a group like ISIS.

Here we have every Islamic militant group fighting everyone, and we, and others have used and sided with them in certain endeavors, and they turn on us after it is over.

Here we can finally have an Islamic terror group that is standing up for their religion, and the world has to face it, there is no more excuses to blame the different groups, and we can finally identify the real problem,...Islam.
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:39 PM
 
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Again, in the name of the religion of peace.

Iraqi woman activist killed by Islamic State
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