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Old 10-27-2014, 05:09 PM
 
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Remove religion and this conversation becomes redundant.
Remove religion, and most of the worlds problems evaporate.
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Old 10-27-2014, 05:46 PM
 
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Remove religion, and most of the worlds problems evaporate.
Did somebody forget to tell this to North Korea?
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:14 PM
 
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Did somebody forget to tell this to North Korea?
I said "Most". and N Korea is run by power hungry lunatics.
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:41 PM
 
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I said "Most". and N Korea is run by power hungry lunatics.
As are the leaders of some Nations that misuse the name of Islam.
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:38 PM
 
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As are the leaders of some Nations that misuse the name of Islam.
Actually herein lies the problem.

Islam gives the power to the leaders, muhammed himself ordered it, or at least it was written that way 200 years later.
The leaders collect 20% of the booty, which can be oil money or Jizya, from the western countries giving them aid.

They are not misusing the religion, in fact they are using it. Using it to the advantage it was written for.

Read your Qur'an, be a good muslim, don't make waves, or we will kill you.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:01 PM
 
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Actually herein lies the problem.

Islam gives the power to the leaders, muhammed himself ordered it, or at least it was written that way 200 years later.
The leaders collect 20% of the booty, which can be oil money or Jizya, from the western countries giving them aid.

They are not misusing the religion, in fact they are using it. Using it to the advantage it was written for.

Read your Qur'an, be a good muslim, don't make waves, or we will kill you.
None of which I have ever witnessed even when living in the Mideast. But that was a long time ago and the Mideast was not like today.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:16 PM
 
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The rules stood for 1200 to 1400 years, depending on how you calculate it.

what do you think the Golden age of Islam was.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:29 PM
 
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None of which I have ever witnessed even when living in the Mideast. But that was a long time ago and the Mideast was not like today.
A good friend of mine traveled the mid east with the ACE, and referred to the whole as a sh-t hole, with the only place he wanted to return to was Iren.
Of course this was in the days of the Shah.

Google "Iran in the 60s pictures"
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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A good friend of mine traveled the mid east with the ACE, and referred to the whole as a sh-t hole, with the only place he wanted to return to was Iren.
Of course this was in the days of the Shah.

Google "Iran in the 60s pictures"
I was in Iran during the 1960s and yes it was a fabulous country. But at the time I also found Turkey, Egypt, Syria and Yemen to be comparable.
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Old 10-28-2014, 01:19 AM
 
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I’m a Cristian and I believe in God, and that, “he sent his only begotten son to give his life for Me.” but I have to admit, that not in the best of my ability in accordance to the knowledge I have about him. But, it doesn’t make me a Muslim even if I did it to the best of my ability. My point is this, that non-Muslims get confuse when Muslims use the word God. Cristians tend to relate your god to our God. You worship some other god that has nothing to do with the only God. Our God unlike yours has a name. We worship YHWH. You worship a nameless god. The attributes and characteristics of your god and our God seem to be opposites.



Islam is a parasitic ideology (I wouldn’t call it a religion). It totally depends on the old and new testaments of the holy bible. It totally depends on them to gain any credibility, sense of authenticity, and antiquity. To say that Adam, Moses, Noah, Jesus performed islam is absurd, ignorant and an insult. They didn’t worship your allah if you read the holy bible you will find out, that they actually abhor and condemns you religion (ideology). How can you use the holy bible as a source, when the holy bible condemns your ideology?
This is a good example of Shirk(Division) =many Gods. It is the opposite of Tawheed (Unity). Those who argue that "my God is better than your God" have fallen into shirk by positing 2 Gods, "mine" and "yours". Tahweed(Unity) means there is ONLY ONE GOD....which means there cannot be concepts such as "my God" and "your God".

The whole Universe/Creation is "muslim" because the universe follows/submits to God's laws/God's will (natural laws are Gods laws)
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