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Old 10-07-2014, 03:08 AM
 
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Old 10-07-2014, 06:11 AM
 
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Islam need a fear factor to exist.
It would be impossible to promote the religion, just on the written merits.
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:07 PM
 
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Yup, Islam has always been big on killing.
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Old 10-08-2014, 06:32 AM
 
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Yup, Islam has always been big on killing.
The Islamic writings themselves, spend far more script on how they treat the Kaffir, than how they treat themselves.
And killing is the only option for people who do not convert.
Exceptions are slaves and dhimmines.
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Old 10-12-2014, 10:54 AM
 
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The best estimates place fully 1/3 of all American Muslims as being made up from African American converts. Of my 20 Muslim friends and acquaintances of various ethnic backgrounds, all converted to Islam within the last 40 years. Considering the argument that Islam would die out without sanctions against apostasy seems more than a bit suspect.
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Old 10-12-2014, 01:44 PM
 
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The best estimates place fully 1/3 of all American Muslims as being made up from African American converts. Of my 20 Muslim friends and acquaintances of various ethnic backgrounds, all converted to Islam within the last 40 years. Considering the argument that Islam would die out without sanctions against apostasy seems more than a bit suspect.
It is a bit difficult to determine how many African Americans have converted to Islam as the ones converting to NOI get counted as converted to Islam in the Statistics. They are 2 different Religions but with some similarities

when you take NOI out of the factoring the figures look more like this:

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Muslim Americans are racially diverse. No single racial or ethnic group makes up more than 30% of the total. Overall, 30% describe themselves as white, 23% as black, 21% as Asian, 6% as Hispanic and 19% as other or mixed race.
SOURCE for the numbers

However, your conclusion is correct. Islam overall is the fastest growing of the 3 largest religions.

The majority of Islamic Nations do not threaten apostates with death. The threat of death for apostates would be a big hindrance to Islamic Growth as that would stop most people from ever converting. I can not imagine anyone converting to a religion that killed apostates.
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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And why should I care what the sheikh says? Amusingly, Westerners seem to think that Muslims have to readily obey the commands and commentaries of any imam. One can easily post an article or video of a scholar disagreeing with the death sentence rule. And no, it is irrelevant if they are the minority.
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:34 PM
 
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And why should I care what the sheikh says? Amusingly, Westerners seem to think that Muslims have to readily obey the commands and commentaries of any imam. One can easily post an article or video of a scholar disagreeing with the death sentence rule. And no, it is irrelevant if they are the minority.
It is like arguing that the vast majority of Christians ascribe to the ramblings of Pat Robertson.
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:46 PM
 
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There are too many what ifs in islam. Such as.... if one particular imam had not declared that the manipulation of numbers was the work of the devil..... would the golden age of Muslim science have been such that not just the economic but scientific landscape of our world not be ENTIRELY different.
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Old 10-15-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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It is like arguing that the vast majority of Christians ascribe to the ramblings of Pat Robertson.
We know that in some (not all) Muslim countries a lot of Muslims are indeed signed up to killing apostates.
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