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Old 11-18-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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Japan is one of the few countries that will not allow Islam to thrive there
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Old 11-18-2014, 05:52 PM
 
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In Japan a niquab is just cosplay. Due to an ageing population immigration to Japan is slowly on the rise, I have no doubt though that immigration policies to Nihon, are well considered.
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:05 PM
 
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During that "economic miracle" period many men died of forced overwork---the phenomenon was called "Karoshi". Then when the bubble economy burst---they committed suicides (honor). The pressure on students to perform and conform also made the youth prone to a culture of bullying and suicides. Today, many young men see no future for themselves and so there is another phenomenon called "hikikomi" in which youth lock themselves in their rooms. The burden of taxes and the pressures and stress of two income families are making many young people put off marrying....devastating population demographics as well as the tax base. However, ALL societies have their own unique socio-economic problems be it a "developed" or "developing" country.

What I find impressive about Japan and the Asian Tiger economies is that despite corruption at the higher levels....the distribution of wealth occured so that most people in the country benefited from the economic growth....this cannot be said for a lot of other (corrupt) economies such as India and China where there is much unequal distribution of wealth.

Muslims in Japan.---Islam is growing in Japan and Saudi Arabia has provisions for Hajj travel from Japan. The Tokyo Mosque (Tokyo Camii) is the largest Mosque built in 1938. (The Kobe Mosque was built in 1935). In the 1930's an organization was established for the study of Islam. However, before this, the Japanese have had contact with Chinese Muslims. Today Japan is "Halayfying" so that Muslim tourists will find it comfortable visiting Japan---particularly tourists from Malaysia and Indonesia. Restaurants are turning traditional Japanese meals Halal, hotels are renting out prayer rugs and airports and department stores have Muslim prayer spaces.....
The Japanese are also studying Islamic economics (finance and banking) and Universities such as Doshisha University offer courses in Islamic law, Islamic philosophy, Islamic sciences and Arabic language and grammer. A Japanese Muslim, Koichi Honda, has won several Arabic Calligraphy contest and the scholar Toshihiko Istuzu has written influential books on Islamic subjects.

Japanese Muslim brings life to Arabic calligraphy - YouTube
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:15 PM
 
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There are countries in the world, mainly in Europe, that are presently undergoing significant cultural transformations as a result of Muslim immigration. France, Germany, Belgium and Holland are interesting examples of cases where immigration from Muslim countries, together with the Muslims’ high fertility rate, effects every area of life.
It is interesting to know that there is a country in the world whose official and public approach to the Muslim matter is totally different. This country is Japan. This country keeps a very low profile on all levels regarding the Muslim matter: On the diplomatic level, senior political figures from Islamic countries almost never visit Japan, and Japanese leaders rarely visit Muslim countries. The relations with Muslim countries are based on concerns such as oil and gas, which Japan imports from some Muslim countries. The official policy of Japan is not to give citizenship to Muslims who come to Japan, and even permits for permanent residency are given sparingly to Muslims.
Japan forbids exhorting people to adopt the religion of Islam (Dawah), and any Muslim who actively encourages conversion to Islam is seen as proselytizing to a foreign and undesirable culture. Few academic institutions teach the Arabic language. It is very difficult to import books of the Qur’an to Japan, and Muslims who come to Japan, are usually employees of foreign companies. In Japan there are very few mosques. The official policy of the Japanese authorities is to make every effort not to allow entry to Muslims, even if they are physicians, engineers and managers sent by foreign companies that are active in the region. Japanese society expects Muslim men to pray at home.
Japanese companies seeking foreign workers specifically note that they are not interested in Muslim workers. And any Muslim who does manage to enter Japan will find it very difficult to rent an apartment. Anywhere a Muslim lives, the neighbors become uneasy. Japan forbids the establishment of Islamic organizations, so setting up Islamic institutions such as mosques and schools is almost impossible. In Tokyo there is only one imam.
In contrast with what is happening in Europe, very few Japanese are drawn to Islam. If a Japanese woman marries a Muslim, she will be considered an outcast by her social and familial environment. There is no application of Shari’a law in Japan. There is some food in Japan that is halal, kosher according to Islamic law, but it is not easy to find it in the supermarket.
The Japanese approach to Muslims is also evidenced by the numbers: in Japan there are 127 million residents, but only ten thousand Muslims, less than one hundredth of a percent. The number of Japanese who have converted is thought to be few. In Japan there are a few tens of thousands of foreign workers who are Muslim, mainly from Pakistan, who have managed to enter Japan as workers with construction companies. However, because of the negative attitude towards Islam they keep a low profile.
There are several reasons for this situation:
First, the Japanese tend to lump all Muslims together as fundamentalists who are unwilling to give up their traditional point of view and adopt modern ways of thinking and behavior. In Japan, Islam is perceived as a strange religion, that any intelligent person should avoid.
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:20 PM
 
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There is no need to "import" Quran, It has already been translated into Japanese. It is true that interest in Islam is largely for geo-political reasons but there are robust diplomatic relations with Muslim-majority countries and Foreign Islamic scholars (such as Tariq Ramadan) are invited to speak at conferences. But there are also Japanese Muslim Academics and scholars who publish books in Japanese.

There is discrimination in Japan but not because of religion---the discrimination is ethnicity based (particularly strong against Chinese and Koreans). There is also strong resentment against American military personnel. Many of the bases from elsewhere in Japan have been moved to Okinawa where there is very strong anger towards the American bases and American military personnel (because of rape and other criminal behavior as well as being a general nuisance)

...and Japan does give citizenship and permanent residency to Muslims---I am a Muslim and a permanent resident of Japan. There are Islamic schools in Japan and there are many organizations also. According to Tokyo mosque, which has a Quran study class for Japanese ladies, there are more women converts to Islam than men....but there are no official statistics that I am aware of.

Halal--Japan went through a downsizing of the dairy industry---the result of which has created a shortage of butter. Because the Agri lobby is very strong, duty on imported butter is high which means that many dishes that used butter have switched to lard---making halalyfication problematic---but now they are trying out switching to margarine.....
Many Japanese food products are made in Malaysia or Indonesia (the Japanese have invested heavily in these countries) so Japanese food from these countries is automatically halal. (Many food products also come from China---but they cannot be considered halal unless they have certification---there are organizations in Japan that check if a product is halal or not and print lists for Muslims residing in Japan.)

Reason for conversion to Islam---Japanese converts say they were searching for meaning in their lives and when they encountered Islam, it answered their questions more satisfactorily than other paths.
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:36 PM
 
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You will always find exceptions, but the Japanese are way to advances to stoop to islam.
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:43 PM
 
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don't agree.
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Old 11-18-2014, 10:50 PM
 
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:06 PM
 
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...and Japan does give citizenship and permanent residency to Muslims---I am a Muslim and a permanent resident of Japan. There are Islamic schools in Japan and there are many organizations also. According to Tokyo mosque, which has a Quran study class for Japanese ladies, there are more women converts to Islam than men....but there are no official statistics that I am aware of.

Halal--Japan went through a downsizing of the dairy industry---the result of which has created a shortage of butter. Because the Agri lobby is very strong, duty on imported butter is high which means that many dishes that used butter have switched to lard---making halalyfication problematic---but now they are trying out switching to margarine.....
Many Japanese food products are made in Malaysia or Indonesia (the Japanese have invested heavily in these countries) so Japanese food from these countries is automatically halal. (Many food products also come from China---but they cannot be considered halal unless they have certification---there are organizations in Japan that check if a product is halal or not and print lists for Muslims residing in Japan.)

Reason for conversion to Islam---Japanese converts say they were searching for meaning in their lives and when they encountered Islam, it answered their questions more satisfactorily than other paths.
Re your references on concessions to Islam, those are largely pragmatic, Japan is a country of commerce and does business in the Gulf, Malaysia, etc. As considerate hosts, Japan is also preparing to be more foreigner friendly in preparation for the Tokyo Olympics.
You state that some Japanese have turned to Islam for some sense of meaning. Sure. Some other Japanese have also turned to Christianity, Aleph (formerly Aum Shinrikyo of sarin gas attack fame), Falun Gong, and other assorted cults and superstitions.
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:52 PM
 
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As a post script to the above, you're glad to cite examples of people converting to Islam, but what if Muslims in an Islamic country wanted to do the same - to opt out, to join some other group. How would that be? Would that be acceptable? Some Muslim woman in Syria or Libya or Afghanistan blithely heading over to the church and taking Bible classes or deciding to become a Buddhist, or just to become a 'non-believer'? There's something, at best ungracious about Islam, its double standard, its insecurity (no doubt with good reason), its tyranny. In fact, to enjoy the advantages, the freedoms of another country, and yet demand special privileges is evidence of its backwardness, its lack of development. If you'd like to make a convincing case, that rejecting Islam in an Islamic country wouldn't be a problem. Please do.

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