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Old 03-20-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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Yemen - mosques - more than 100 killed.

BBC News - Yemen crisis: More than 100 die in attacks on Sanaa mosques

 
Old 03-20-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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that's like asking why are guns so violent.

The people are fighting because they have nothing to lose. No hope, no chance, no nothing. And we fat Americans try and reason them out from our warm homes and full stomachs.
 
Old 03-23-2015, 02:38 PM
 
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that's like asking why are guns so violent.

The people are fighting because they have nothing to lose. No hope, no chance, no nothing. And we fat Americans try and reason them out from our warm homes and full stomachs.
Trite simplistic nonsense. What about the millions of non-Muslims who also live in difficult circumstances?
 
Old 03-23-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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Woman killed because alleged to have burned a Koran.

26 arrests after mob beats, burns Afghan woman - CNN.com
 
Old 03-23-2015, 02:56 PM
 
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Woman killed because alleged to have burned a Koran.

26 arrests after mob beats, burns Afghan woman - CNN.com
Also notice it was illegal for them to do so and the perpetrators that did so are being arrested.
It is not permitted to kill her in Islam or in the laws of Afghanistan, an Islamic Nation
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Old 03-23-2015, 10:18 PM
 
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Also notice it was illegal for them to do so and the perpetrators that did so are being arrested.
It is not permitted to kill her in Islam or in the laws of Afghanistan, an Islamic Nation
But it's also not prohibited in Islam for them to kill her for burning the Koran is it?
 
Old 03-23-2015, 10:55 PM
 
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If an ideology is inherently peaceful then the extremist would be the ones who are the most peaceful.
If an ideology is inherently violent then the extremists would be the ones who are the most violent.

Islamic extremists: peaceful or violent?

Islamic ideology: peaceful or violent?
You only have to scratch the surface to see the ongoing pattern of violence and aggressive disregard for Christians that is persistent in the Muslim culture. The present attitude of Islam (especially outside the states) toward non-believers reflects the message of the Quran, which is one of superiority, arrogance, and extreme violence. Tolerance is a one way street with Islam.

The bottom line is that sixty percent of Americans have a negative impression of Islam in this country and the most current research shows that the U.S. identified more than 160 Muslim-American terrorist suspects in the 13 years since 9/11. In truth, even a tiny minority "1%" of Radical Islam worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly a insignificant number. However, the minority of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their violence, or their means of achieving this violence is far greater than 1%.

The Pew Research findings (2010) 26% of younger Muslims (18-29) in America believe suicide bombings are justified. 35% of young Muslims in Britain (18-29) believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
Pew Research (2011): 49% of Muslim-Americans say they are "Muslim first" (26% say they are American first)
Pew Research (2011): 21% of Muslim-Americans say there is a fair to great amount of support for Islamic extremism in their Muslim American community.
Gallup: 38.6% of all Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially")


WikiLeaks: 1 in 3 British Muslim students back killing for Islam, 40% want Sharia law | Daily Mail Online

Muslim-Western Tensions Persist | Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project
 
Old 03-23-2015, 11:24 PM
 
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^ No question about it, the above is troubling. It seems apparent that decades ago that support for acts of violence - as indeed the number of acts of violence - would have been lower. Islam, as a strident, aggressive force has really taken off in recent years. As the saying goes ' One step forward ...'

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Old 03-23-2015, 11:39 PM
 
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Also notice it was illegal for them to do so and the perpetrators that did so are being arrested.
It is not permitted to kill her in Islam or in the laws of Afghanistan, an Islamic Nation
But Woodrow, the problem is that time and again - from Tunisia, to Libya, to Iraq, to Yemen - to Pakistan we see - pretty much on a daily basis - a considerable number of people (minority or not), blithely (I use the term for emphasis), committing acts in the name of Islam. Regardless of whether you consider them 'true Muslims' - they presumably consider themselves to be so. They also seem to find no shortage of precedents/ 'justifications' to carry out those acts. It may be galling for peace loving Muslims like yourself, but I think there's a problem here. Egyptian president Sissi has addressed the subject - calling for a reform of Islam as a whole. Given its apparent inflexibility (not to mention its schisms) and the myriad situations where different interpretations can be reached, he might be asking for the impossible.
 
Old 03-23-2015, 11:45 PM
 
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^ No question about it, the above is troubling. It seems apparent that decades ago that support for acts of violence - as indeed the number of acts of violence - would have been lower. Islam, as a strident, aggressive force has really taken off in recent years. As the saying goes '... two steps back'.
Two steps back.....and a one-way flight back to their Islamic country of choice! if Muslims really want to live under Sharia law why don't they consider removing themselves from a historically and predominantly Christian nation and relocate back to a country that supports their violent and bizarre brand of backward ideology? It would seem that it's time to wake up to the meaning and reality of Islam, if the people of the US don't comprehend the threat of Islam from these fanatics then they will only have themselves to blame. The hatred that these people demonstrate is sickening, and would NEVER be tolerated if it were Christians behaving like this in a Muslim country.
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