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Old 03-18-2015, 10:10 PM
 
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To be fair there's something broken in this religion, and it's just sad. It's roots are beautiful, but most muslims are so far removed from it it's sad. I don't even think they can repair their reputation at any point in the next 50 years - and that's if the religion and its territories "survive" its own internal (and now external) war.

I saw this muslim on TV - some caucasian. She clearly knew nothing about the religion, and two professors who studied, breathed and lived it (they were muslims from the "homeland") started schooling her on her choice of dress and how, in actuality, it goes against Islamic core principals, but she kept rambling about how it wasn't, it was a true show of faith, etc etc.

That religion is broken - not to say others aren't a bit iffy. But they aren't creating terroristic groups who are destroying lives, currently, and that are mostly unstoppable.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:07 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Another paradox is that Daesh look pretty ridiculous (putting beliefs to one side here). There's a comedic aspect to those shots of pompous marching. I guess many of those same weapons they hold aloft are made by 'infidels' - as are the pick up trucks they're enamored of.
Nearly every weapon ISIS uses is American or Russian made. When we pulled out of Iraq we left a huge amount of munitions behind. Along with a huge amount of Russian made weapons Saddam had.

The weapons were there and just waiting to be plucked by any radical group. A bad side effect of war, it often leaves behind a large amount of weapons for successors to use. We squashed a mosquito with Saddam but in turn armed a hornets nest
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:10 AM
 
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They think they will got relieve by joining there.
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Old 03-19-2015, 03:49 AM
 
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Nearly every weapon ISIS uses is American or Russian made. When we pulled out of Iraq we left a huge amount of munitions behind. Along with a huge amount of Russian made weapons Saddam had.

The weapons were there and just waiting to be plucked by any radical group. A bad side effect of war, it often leaves behind a large amount of weapons for successors to use. We squashed a mosquito with Saddam but in turn armed a hornets nest
I have little doubt that the Iraq invasion was the worst foreign policy blunder in US history.
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Old 03-19-2015, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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I have little doubt that the Iraq invasion was the worst foreign policy blunder in US history.
Like many Vietnam vets, I call it a toss up between Nam, Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Old 03-21-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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I think most of those who join ISIS do so for the same reasons people join criminal gangs in the U.S. and elsewhere. They are by and large disaffected young men who feel alienated from the mainstream of society for some reason.
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Old 03-21-2015, 10:43 AM
 
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I think most of those who join ISIS do so for the same reasons people join criminal gangs in the U.S. and elsewhere. They are by and large disaffected young men who feel alienated from the mainstream of society for some reason.
I think you got it. Just the few that I have been able to find some history about, have been social outcasts, loners and have a history of run ins with authority.
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Old 03-22-2015, 11:57 PM
 
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With all the bad press....
With all those fatwas against suicide bombings...

Muslims are still joining ISIS.


WHY?
It's really very interesting and somewhat bizarre to see a Japanese Muslim in that picture. I guess Ko Nakata san didn't get the memo that Mulims are not welcome in his native land. The policy of the Japanese government is to make every effort not to allow entry to Muslims into Japan, even if they're doctors, engineers, managers or executives sent by foreign companies that are active in the the region. In Japan, unlike most other countries, there are no human rights organizations to offer any support to Muslims.

Japan manages to remain a country almost without any Muslim presence because Japan’s negative attitude toward Islam and Muslims pervades every level of the population, from local street musicians to large organizations and companies to senior Government officials.

Japanese companies seeking foreign workers specifically note that they are absolutely not interested in Muslim workers whatsoever. And any Muslim who manages to enter Japan will find it very difficult to rent an apartment in Tokyo or a small rural Japanese town. Anywhere a Muslim lives, the neighbors will always become uneasy. Japan forbids the establishment of Islamic organizations, so setting up any Islamic institutions such as mosques and is almost impossible​.​

Most of the Muslims in Japan are immigrants, the biggest group are comprised of Indonesians who number around 30k, then Paki's, and Iranians. Japan has 127 million residents,​ ​but only about 45k Muslims. Ethnic Japanese converts are very very few, less than 7K (mostly women) are Muslims.

The US could learn a thing or two from the Japanese.
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