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Old 05-14-2015, 04:28 AM
 
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Devotee , you may know of no semi-God cult in Shiite as you mentioned above ,,well Do you ever Hear this term ( Wilaya al-Takwiniya) or (Tafweed)?


it means Allah giving some of his creatures(Imam Ali, his wife and their sons) the ability to do whatever they wish in manipulating the creation and laws of the universe.

this is what I and other Muslim mean when we say that Shiite cult considers semi-God aspect as a relevant quality of their Imams . here is one source for you and I will try to sent to your in-mail other quotes from Shiite's books.

https://islamistruth.wordpress.com/2...rophet-or-ali/

May Allah guide you and all of us to the best path and to his paradise , amen
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Old 05-15-2015, 07:06 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allaah The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (all).


I've read sayings attributed to the Prophet Muhammad [SAW], which declare (if memory serves me correctly); Muhammad [SAW], is the city of knowledge, and Ali, is the gate of the city (of knowledge). I see that as a kind of mutual respect; not some arrogant belief in ones self (as a god).


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Nahjul Balagha contains 240 sermons given by Imam Ali (a), dealing with a wide variety of topics including our existence, relationship with the Almighty, building a God-fearing personality, and the Imam's (a) reflections upon historical incidents. The Letters and Sayings of Imam 'Ali

Nahjul Balagha Part 1, The Sermons | Books on Islam and Muslims | Al-Islam.org

Nahjul Balagha Part 2, Letters and Sayings | Books on Islam and Muslims | Al-Islam.org




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Old 05-15-2015, 07:44 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allaah The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (all).


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The key difference above all else between a Shi'a and a Sunni in regards to Islamic Jurisprudence is that the Sunni will accept the testimony of *all* of the Prophet's companions whereas the Shi'a will limit their selection to Ahlul-Bayt.

"The difference" appears to be the fact that the "Ahlul-Bayt" was blessed, by Allaah [SWT], through the Prophet Muhammad [SAW].



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How for instance they reject the testimony of Aisha (ra) when she was the wife of the Prophet (saw) is beyond comprehension.


Not to be argumentative, did I not read that Aisha (ra), lead a group of Muslims, to fight against Imam Ali (ra)?



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Old 05-15-2015, 08:52 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allaah The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (all).

"The difference" appears to be the fact that the "Ahlul-Bayt" was blessed, by Allaah [SWT], through the Prophet Muhammad [SAW].

Not to be argumentative, did I not read that Aisha (ra), lead a group of Muslims, to fight against Imam Ali (ra)?

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The Prophet Muhammad (saw) also gave special tidings to the Sahabah and first three generations of Islam. And I quote, Narrated by Imran bin Husain (RA): “Verily the best among you (to follow) is my generation (the Messenger Muhammad (SAW) and his Companions (RA)), then those who follow, and then those who follow them…” (Saheeh Muslim, Book: the Virtues of the Sahaabah, chapter 52 hadeeth #2535)

Secondly Allah (swt) mentioned Abu Bakr (RA) in the Quran when telling the story of the cave and I quote, "If you help him (Muhammad) not (it does not matter), for God did indeed help him when the disbelievers drove him out, the second of two, when they were in the cave, and he (Prophet Muhammad ) said to his companion (Abu Bakr),"Be not sad (or afraid), surely God is with us.” Then God sent down His Sakînah (calmness, tranquillity, peace, etc.) upon him, and strengthened him with forces that you saw not, and made the word of those who disbelieved the lowermost, while it was the Word of God that became the uppermost, and God is All-Mighty, All-Wise.” (Quran 9:40)

The fitna which occurred between the companions of the Prophet (saw) after the death of the Prophet (saw) should have no bearing on whether or not we accept the testimony of a person. Rather if Allah (swt) mentions Aisha (ra) as a mother of the believers, we accept her testimony regardless of what happened after the death of the Prophet (saw).
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allaah The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (all).


I've read sayings attributed to the Prophet Muhammad [SAW], which declare (if memory serves me correctly); Muhammad [SAW], is the city of knowledge, and Ali, is the gate of the city (of knowledge). I see that as a kind of mutual respect; not some arrogant belief in ones self (as a god).





Nahjul Balagha Part 1, The Sermons | Books on Islam and Muslims | Al-Islam.org

Nahjul Balagha Part 2, Letters and Sayings | Books on Islam and Muslims | Al-Islam.org




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Is this a confirmation to my enquiry about semi-god entity or features of your Imams ?
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Old 05-16-2015, 06:30 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name Of Allaah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum, The Peace Be Upon You (all).





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Is this a confirmation to my enquiry about semi-god entity or features of your Imams ? Resigned


How could it be? Read my words again, and then decide.



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"I've read sayings attributed to the Prophet Muhammad [SAW], which declare (if memory serves me correctly); Muhammad [SAW], is the city of knowledge, and Ali, is the gate of the city (of knowledge). I see that as a kind of mutual respect; not some arrogant belief in ones self (as a god)." devotee

I think you are confusing me with some other groups in Islam. I became interested in Shia Islam about the time of the Iranian revolution. I do not know much about other Shi'ite groups. In fact, I've only recently started reading books, re: how some Muslim sects dislike the Shia. I do not use titles (Sunni, Shia, salafi etc.), I am a Muslim. And, I mostly keep my own council. This thingy about semi-gods, is a serious matter. It is not something to play with. I do not see any man, as god. Desist, from such inference.




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Old 05-19-2015, 06:06 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allaah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (all).



As would be expected, The Islamic Republic Of Iran, has taken the lead, to find unity amongst the Muslims.




Unity among Muslims a top priority





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Old 05-24-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name Of Allaah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You (all).





Unsubstantiated allegations against Islamic Iran - Article




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