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Old 05-13-2015, 05:46 AM
 
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Peace to one and all,
Some critics of Islam said that the rules of the faith do not allow you, women in Islam, to have public recognition and that as a result you remain nameless. This view is neither supported by history nor by Islamic religious precepts.

The question of dress [Hijab and long dress] is especially in need of clarification. The Qur'anic injunction to women on dress is mainly to protect them from men, who have 'disease in their hearts'. Protected by her own symbol of dignity (her dress), the women can feel free to take any role she wishes without the added burden of having constantly to look beautiful (often more artificial than natural). Nor is she allowed to succumb to the temptation of being used for the ornamental beautification of streets and offices.

Thus the unspoken message of the Muslim women dress is meant to say to the man: "Stop looking at my body. It is private. Look at my mind instead." This is what frustrates some men so much about the Islamic dress, complaining that it 'degrades' the women to a lower status than the man. This NOT so, their real complaint is that the Islamic dress deprives the LUSTFUL man of so much free entertainment.

To digress a bit, another related issue is that in some parts of the West today, gays and lesbians 'marriages' are considered [SUBHANALLAH!!] as indicators of freedom and rights. And we, Muslims, are demanded to recognize that... NEVER!! How can a Muslim respect gays and lesbians rights when the West does not identify for the Muslim, which of the 2 is female [in the lesbian marriage or in the gays marriage], so that we could give her her due rights?
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:37 AM
 
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To digress a bit, another related issue is that in some parts of the West today, gays and lesbians 'marriages' are considered [SUBHANALLAH!!] as indicators of freedom and rights. And we, Muslims, are demanded to recognize that... NEVER!! How can a Muslim respect gays and lesbians rights when the West does not identify for the Muslim, which of the 2 is female [in the lesbian marriage or in the gays marriage], so that we could give her her due rights?
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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If you don't like the "west". go somewhere else. Thanks.
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Old 05-13-2015, 09:37 AM
 
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If you don't like the "west". go somewhere else. Thanks.
When someone truly likes or loves something they would want to make it as best as it possibly can be. Stating, "If you don't like the way it is, GET OUT!" is the anti-thesis of progress, advancement and is actually regressive to western culture (which is ever evolving and changing).
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:38 PM
 
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the anti-thesis of progress, advancement and is actually regressive to western culture (which is ever evolving and changing).
part of the evolving, changing, progress, and advancement in humanity is to recognize gay marriage
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:43 PM
 
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How can a Muslim respect gays and lesbians rights when the West does not identify for the Muslim, which of the 2 is female so that we could give her her due rights?
perhaps then it is simply best to extend dignity, respect, and honor to both people, to all people
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:57 AM
 
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Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim In The Name of Allaah, The Most Gracious, The Most Merciful. As salaamu alaykum The Peace Be Upon You.


I am not looking for an argument, however, experience still appears to be the best teacher.



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Old 05-14-2015, 08:03 AM
 
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part of the evolving, changing, progress, and advancement in humanity is to recognize gay marriage
If we accept Allah (swt) as the one true God and that Muhammad (saw) was his messenger then by default progress and advancement to the peak of human life would be within the framework of following the laws, rules and regulations of what Allah (swt) has sent down and through the example set forth by the Prophet (saw). A marriage according to our sources of law is only valid and can only be performed by a willing man and a willing woman both of marriageable age (puberty). A marriage can not occur between two of the same sex as such a marriage is invalid according to the Shari'a and homosexuality is pointedly forbidden.

Therefore any move by a given society towards the acceptance of such a marriage would be considered de-evolution, moving the society away from what Allah (swt) had sent down and towards the realm of hedonists.
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:54 AM
 
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When someone truly likes or loves something they would want to make it as best as it possibly can be. Stating, "If you don't like the way it is, GET OUT!" is the anti-thesis of progress, advancement and is actually regressive to western culture (which is ever evolving and changing).
Whatever. When it comes to muslim terrorists, I really don't get a rip about progress and advancement. They don't love or care for western culture, they want to attack and destroy it. I say go away!
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Old 05-16-2015, 09:52 AM
 
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Whatever. When it comes to muslim terrorists, I really don't get a rip about progress and advancement. They don't love or care for western culture, they want to attack and destroy it. I say go away!
I am an American Muslim I am also a former US serviceman that is a proud member of the DAV (Disabled American Veteran) with service connected disabilities.

The majority of American Muslims are law abiding citizens that dislike anyone who deliberatly harms innocent people.

We serve our nation and are no different than most Americans. Most of us were born here some with family roots that go back many generations.

In all probability you will never come in personal contact with a Muslim Terrorist in the USA. While virtually every Muslim living in Afghanistan and Iraq has had loved ones killed by American bombs.

While 9/11 was the worse terrorist attack to ever hit America and the 19 perpetrators were Muslim, not one of them was an American citizen or had any ties in the USA. but overall:

Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America


Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
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