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Old 08-23-2015, 03:40 PM
 
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1.5 Moon was Split in Two
The aya speaks about the separation or splitting of the Moon from its mother earth, and it also will be a sign of the approach of Doomsday; i.e. such event will take place before Doomsday.
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" God - be glorified - said in the Quran 54: 1-2, which means:

{(The hour [of their death] has become imminent, and the moon split [and detached from the earth in the past, and will split into two halves in the future, just before Doomsday.]

Yet if they see a sign, they will turn away, and keep up saying, ‘ [the Quran is] a magic!’)

The reason for revealing this aya of the Quran, was that Quraish, the tribe of Prophet Mohammed - Peace be on him – laughed and mocked at Mohammed and said to him: “If, really, you are a prophet, then cleave the moon apart into two halves. Only in case you do that we shall believe you!” Therefore, this aya of the Quran was revealed; its interpretation is:

>> ( The hour [of their death] has become imminent) means: the hour of their death has approached and become very near; and We shall punish them for their stubbornness and mocking.

>> ( and the moon split [and detached from the earth in the past, and will split into two halves in the future, just before Doomsday.] ) means: the moon had cleft and parted from the Earth in the past, i.e. detached from it, and it will also cleave when Doomsday is nearby.

>> (Yet if they see a sign, they will turn away, and keep up saying, ‘ [the Quran is] a magic!’) means: If We show them, nowadays, one of Our manifest signs [or miracles] like the cleavage of the moon, or the other signs which they have demanded, and they see it with their own eyes, then after all, they will not believe in you, Mohammed, because of their stubbornness, but on the contrary, they will go astray, away from you, and will say: it [: the Quran] is merely a magic, and will go on saying that the Quran is a magic.
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Old 08-23-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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1.6 Sun, Moon and Stars Created for Humans
The sun, moon and stars are much older than humans. But the Qur'an states their created purpose is for timekeeping and navigation.

Why do you object that God created Sun and Moon for benefit of humans; although Sun and Moon are older than humans; but He created them and prepared them for their benefit before He created man; just like He created the breast of woman before He created the baby.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:29 PM
 
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Within the total of 6236 verses there are less than 40 relevant verses that Muslims relied upon to claim the Quran's association with Science.
Even then they are unjustified and absurd in some claims.

To claim any association with Science, one should at least present a reasonable paper to support the points. Then one can discuss the errors therein.

The heaviest weight of the Quran is on the Eschatological and Soteriological issues relating to the individual. The whole of the Quran boils down to the question 'Are you Saved' [like most Christian evangelists would ask].
The Quran promised one will be "Saved" by merely believing and making certain statements.

Quran and Science? Yucks!!

Within the Hindu and other religions there are many claims and indications of their relation with Scientific Discoveries but they don't make a "meal" out of it like many Muslims do. Those who persist in making such claims are those who has low self-esteem.

The focus of a religion should be the Eschatological and Soteriological issues and the related existential dilemma. On this Islam is not very effective within the full perspective of Spirituality.
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Old 08-24-2015, 03:19 PM
 
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I said such doubts which some of the Quran adversaries stir among people against the Quran; they go to the Mutashabih of the Quran and not to the clear straightforward ayat of the Quran, and to some prophetic traditions.

Their purpose is to bar people from following God's religion: the Islam and from the Glorious Quran.
The other purpose is to give their own misinterpretation, while none but God alone knows such ambiguous ayat of the Quran, who will acquaint the Mahdi about their true implications.

Therefore, God - be glorified - threatened them with severe punishment both in this life of the World and in the Next Life.
So this is in the Quran 34: 5, which means:
{5. But those who work to [void] Our revelations so as to frustrate [Us]; there will be for them a chastisement of painful wrath [in the Next Life h.]}
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h i.e. they will have a painful chastisement: wasps and scorpions to sting them in the Barzakh world [or the Afterlife.]
The Arabic word in the aya indicates the insects, as in His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 7: 134, which means:
(And when the punishment fell on them they said: "O Moses, pray your Lord for us.)
The ‘punishment’ which fell on them was the locust, the insect, the frog, the blood and others. However, the effect of these are not painful, but annoying, while the influence of scorpions and wasps is painful on the disbelievers.

Moreover, the reply and refuting such claims of disbelievers in the Quran is found in the book: The Universe and the Quran by the interpreter of the Quran and the Bible: Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm

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Old 08-24-2015, 03:52 PM
 
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1.7 Night is a Veil
Night is just the darkness of space as seen from the earth due its rotation.

Answer:
So you take this great aya of the Quran and give it a wrong interpretation.
Quran 7: 54, which means:
"[God – be glorified – argued against the associaters or idolaters with His creation, so He said:]

{7: 54 Certainly, your Lord is God Who created the heavens and the earth a in six days b, then sat Himself upon the throne c.
He covers the day with the night d; the [night] pursues the [day] incessantly e – and the sun and the moon and the stars are subjected to His bidding f.
Certainly, the creation is His g, as is [His] the 'authority and command'h. So, blessed be God i, the Lord of the worlds.}

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a i.e. the planets including the earth.
Then He explained about the period of time in which He created these objects:
b Of the Hereafter; each day equals one thousand of our years. The indication of that is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 22: 47, which means:
(For a day with your Lord is as [long as] one thousand of your years.)
c However, in my book The Universe and the Quran I have fully explained about the Throne and the heavens .
d i.e. the night covers and veils the day with its darkness.
e i.e. it circles around it quickly and pursues it; that is because darkness is general in the space, and light is only from the sun, without which there cannot be any day; and therefore, God – be glorified – said that the [night] pursues the [day] incessantly; i.e. the day moves after and pursues the day wherever it goes.
f i.e. they move along in their orbits, according to His decree and management.
g While anyone else hasn't anything of that; it means: He is the Creator of the creation; none of His creatures shared with Him, neither did anyone help Him in forming all that; but He originated them according to His knowledge, created them with His might and formed them with His management.
h In preserving, moving or destroying all that; He does whatever He pleases, none may object to Him.
i i.e. God increased His creatures in the universe. The ‘blessing’ means the increase. And this in fact is a description of His acts not of His own self.
The indication of this is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 50: 9, which means:
(And We sent down from the sky [rain] water as a blessing.)
Which means: it increases the plant.

For more explanation about this subject see this link:
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Old 08-24-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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1.8 Seven Planets in the Universe
This verse claims there are seven planets. However, according to astronomers, there are eight ordinary planets and five dwarf planets, which leaves the grand total at thirteen in our solar system. Modern astronomy also has found hundreds of other planets in other solar systems and Cosmologists estimate that hundreds of billions of stars and planets exist in the universe. The author of the Qur'an singling out such a small number of celestial objects only reaffirms his ignorance of the makeup of the universe.
(Allah is He Who created seven Firmaments and of the earth a similar number. Through the midst of them (all) descends His Command: that ye may know that Allah has power over all things, and that Allah comprehends, all things in (His) Knowledge.)
Qur'an 65:12


The answer:
Qur'an 65:12

{12. God [is He] Who had created seven [ethereal] heavens [in the ancient time] a, and [He then created, out] of the earth the equal [number of gaseous heavens b;
the am'r c [: the angels] frequently coming down throughout them [bringing the revelation to the prophets and apostles];
in order that you should know God is Most Able over all things, and God is Comprehending everything in His knowledge.}
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a i.e. spiritual heavens which are the habitation of angels, prophets, martyrs and the pious.http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/i...hereal_Heavens
b The gaseous heavens The Universe and the Quran have been explained in my book The Universe and the Quran.(The Universe and the Quran)
c The word (am'r) implies the spiritual creatures. The meaning: The angels come down from between such heavens, bringing the revelation to the prophets and messengers [or apostles.]
Moreover, I have explained fully about the word am'r in my book: Man after Death (Quran and Man after Death).

The interpretation is according to Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
So it is only their misinterpretation: because such ayat the Mutashabihat; none claims he knows their implication, but only God That knows it.
In fact, the planets are nine in number including the planet of the Asteroids between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, and excluding Pluto which is not a planet but a moon of Neptune.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#The_Material_Heavens_[:_the_Planets]

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Old 08-24-2015, 04:31 PM
 
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1.10 Stars are Located in the Nearest Heaven
Stars are spread throughout the Universe and there is no such thing as the "nearest" heaven or layer. Also, this verse is in keeping with the author's claim (Quran 71:15 as described above) that the seven heavens are arranged one above the other.

Surely We have adorned the nearest heaven with an adornment, the stars
Qur'an 37:6


The answer:
Quran 37:6

{ 6. We have adorned the nearest heaven [to your earth] with [meteors, like] the adornment of the [other] planets a.}
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a i.e. as have We adorned the sky of the other planets with the meteors.

The indication of this is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 67: 5, which means:
(And We adorned the nearest firmament [to your earth] with [meteors which flash at night like] lamps, and made these [meteors] to stone devils)

So the ays is one of the Mutashabihat, and they did not know its interpretation, so they misinterpreted as they desired.
And they did not know which heaven is the nearest, and did not know that it is the lowest gaseous heaven that is above our earth, which is a high atmospheric layer, called the mesosphere; and in that layer the meteors flash every now and then.

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The interpretation is according to the late inspired interpreter of the Quran and the Bible: Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
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Old 08-24-2015, 09:15 PM
 
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One thing I wonder about is with all this amazing scientific knowledge, why has Islam remained in the dark ages? Why aren't Muslims contributing much of anything to humanity today? Jews, who are hated in the Quran and hadiths, are doing amazing things for mankind! Let's look at the Nobel Prize:

"The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000 or roughly 20% of the world's population.

The Nobel Prize is an annual international award bestowed by Scandinavian committees in recognition of cultural and scientific advances. The Nobel Prize is regarded as the most prestigious award in its field.

Muslims that have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:

1988 - Naguib Mahfouz
2006 - Orhan Pamuk

Peace:

1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1990 - Elias James Corey
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai
2003 - Shirin Ebadi
2005 - Mohamed El Baradei
2006 - Muhammad Yunus
2011 - Tawakel Karman

Economics:

ZERO

Chemistry:

1999 - Ahmed Zewail

Physics:

1979 - Mohammad Abdus Salam

Salam was buried in Bahishti Maqbara, a cemetery established by the Ahmadiyya Community at Rabwah, Punjab, Pakistan, next to his parents' graves. The epitaph on his tomb initially read "First Muslim Nobel Laureate". The word "Muslim" was later obscured on the orders of a local magistrate, leaving "First Nobel Laureate". Under Ordinance XX, Being an Ahmadiyya, he was considered a non-Muslim according to the definition provided in the II Amendment to the Constitution of Pakistan.
-- Abdus Salam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Medicine:

1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad

TOTAL: 14 (FOURTEEN) Nobel Prize Recipients

The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000 or about 0.2% of the world's population.

Jews that have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Chemistry:
(34 prize winners, 22% of world total, 33% of US total)

1905 - Adolph von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Voit 168 Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstätter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Perutz
1972 - Christian B. Anfinsen
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert C. Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Jerome Karle
1985 - Herbert Hauptman
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph A. Marcus
1994 - George Andrew Olah
1996 - Harold Kroto
1998 - Walter Kohn
2000 - Alan J. Heeger
2004 - Aaron Ciechanover
2004 - Avram Hershko
2004 - Irwin Rose
2006 - Roger D. Kornberg
2008 - Martin Chalfie
2009 - Ada Yonath
2011 - Dan Shechtman
2012 - Robert Lefkowitz
2013 - Arieh Warshel
2013 - Michael Levitt

Economics:
(29 prize winners, 39% of world total, 50% of US total)

1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel
1994 - John Harsanyi
1994 - Reinhard Selten
1997 - Robert Merton
1997 - Myron Scholes
2001 - George Akerlof
2001 - Joseph Stiglitz
2002 - Daniel Kahneman
2005 - Robert Aumann
2007 - Leonid (Leo) Hurwicz
2007 - Eric Maskin
2007 - Roger Myerson
2008 - Paul Krugman
2009 - Elinor Ostrom
2010 - Peter Diamond
2012 - Alvin Roth

Literature:
(13 prize winners, 12% of world total, 27% of US total)

1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World
2002 - Imre Kertész
2004 - Elfriede Jelinek
2005 - Harold Pinter
2014 - Patrick Modiano

Peace:
(9 prize winners, 9% of world total, 10% of US total)

1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin
1995 - Sir Joseph Rotblat

Physics:
(51 prize winners, 26% of world total, 37% of US total)

1907 - Albert A. Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1943 - Otto Stern
1944 - Isidor Isaac Rabi
1945 - Wolfgang Pauli
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Ilya Frank
1959 - Emilio Gino Segrè
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1962 - Lev Landau
1963 - Eugene Wigner
1965 - Richard Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1967 - Hans Bethe
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - Leon Cooper
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Ben Roy Mottelson
1976 - Burton Richter
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1979 - Sheldon Lee Glashow
1979 - Steven Weinberg
1987 - Karl Alexander Müller
1988 - Leon M. Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1990 - Jerome Isaac Friedman
1992 - Georges Charpak
1995 - Martin Lewis Perl
1995 - Frederick Reines
1996 - David Morris Lee
1996 - Douglas D. Osheroff
1997 - Claude Cohen-Tannoudji
2000 - Zhores Alferov
2003 - Alexei Alexeyevich Abrikosov
2003 - Vitaly Ginzburg
2004 - David Gross
2004 - H. David Politzer
2005 - Roy J. Glauber
2010 - Andre Geim
2011 - Adam Riess
2011 - Saul Perlmutter
2012 - Serge Haroche
2013 - François Englert

Medicine:
(55 prize winners, 27% of world total, 40% of US total)

1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Brown
1985 - Joseph Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen
1986 - Rita Levi-Montalcini
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1992 - Edmond Fischer
1994 - Alfred G. Gilman
1994 - Martin Rodbell
1997 - Stanley Prusiner
1998 - Robert Furchgott
2000 - Paul Greengard
2000 - Eric Kandel
2002 - Sydney Brenner
2002 - H. Robert Horvitz
2004 - Richard Axel
2006 - Andrew Z. Fire
2011 - Bruce Beutler
2011 - Ralph Steinman
2013 - James Rothman
2013 - Randy Schekman

TOTAL: 193 (ONE HUNDRED NINETY THREE) Nobel Prize Recipients!

If not for the discovery of oil by American and British scientists and the advanced technology to drill for oil from Western Cultures, Muslims would not be living the elegant lifestyle they live in Saudi Arabia, Qutar, Kuwait, and the other rich oil producing Muslim countries.

Jews and Muslims
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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The strange thing is that these adversaries of the Quarn, go to some ayat of the Quran, which even Muslims do not know their exact meaning, then they interpret such ambiguous ayat as they like, then to deduce that they are wrong and the Quran is wrong!

Moreover, it is the Bilble that says: the heavens and the earth are created in six days. And that one day to God is as 1000 years.
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Old 08-25-2015, 03:28 PM
 
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1.11 Earth Created in Six Days
The earth first formed around 9 billion years after the Big Bang. The Qur'an, however, repeats the prevailing middle eastern myth that the earth and universe were formed in six days.

We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us
Qur'an 50:38


Answer:
The word heaven or sky in Arabic means: anything above you, so that the ceiling of the room is called its sky.
Moreover, the word heaven comes in singular in the Quran, and it comes also in plural; and all these have particular meaning when the heavens are mentioned together with the earth, or alone without mentioning the earth, and when the heavens are mentioned before mentioning the earth or after mentioning the earth, and if the heavens are joined with the earth with just the word 'and' or there are many words intervening between them.
So to every one of such conditions, there is a particular meaning.

The Universe and the Quran

The Universe and the Quran

The Universe and the Quran

The Universe and the Quran

http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm#The_Material_Heavens_[:_the_Planets]

And when (the heavens and the earth) are mentioned as such and only the word (and) joining between the (heavens) and the (earth) --> it means the heavens that are of the same kind as the earth, which means: the planets including the earth.
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