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Old 09-23-2015, 07:23 AM
 
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So it is a matter of language: As I said about the example of juju

The 'guide' which is the prophet (whether Mohammed or others) will guide juju to the road to the city.
But the final guidance (which implies the acceptance of the guidance and compliance with it); it is up to God Who will send some of his angels to inspire to juju or others: that Mohammed is truthful so follow him; he only invites you to worship God alone according to First Commandment, and he invites you to discard the idols because they do not profit or harm, and Mohammed invites you to God alone and to believe in the Next Life, and so on .. they keep saying such words to him by inspiration while he is unaware, until he is convinced and will convert. --- this is if juju is a good one: kind-hearted and modest and obeying the parents and showing mercy to the orphan (and this God only knows about the true fact about man) and such inspiration is up to God's permission.

But if juju is hard-hearted, he is miser and stingy and does not give to the poor and needy, (and if not all such manners, he may have some of them: this God only knows), then he will not receive the word of the 'guide' : the prophet and others, and will incline to listen to the suggestions of Satan, and will oppose the prophet, eventhough he may see the prophet is truthful and the Quran is the marvelous miracle of God. In other words, God will leave this second category of people to Satan and his devils, to confuse them and misguide them and increase them in misguidance, so as to oppose the Quran and to oppose God's religion of the 'exclusive devotion to God alone' without son or parents or equals.

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Old 09-23-2015, 07:29 AM
 
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Guidance are two kinds: one in the life of the World: it is the guidance to the Islam and monotheism, and the second is the guidance to the way to Paradise or heaven.
This I will explain by God's will in the next post.
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Old 09-23-2015, 03:03 PM
 
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Guidance in the Quran
This is according to the late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible: Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
Soora (or Chapter) 1: 6-7
" 6. Show us the standard way. h
7. The way [followed] by those [monotheists: Paradise people] on whom You have been Gracious and Bounteous i, neither [the way] of those [Jews] with whom You have been angry j, nor [the way] of those [Christians] who have gone astray! k
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h It means: Lead us along the way of "the exclusive devotion to God alone": the way which will lead us to Paradise in the Next Life.
i It means: the way followed by your prophets and those devoted to You: those to whom You have been Gracious by admitting them into Paradise in Heaven.
It is like His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 4: 69 which means:
(They [will] be with those to whom God has shown favor [by admitting them into Paradise]: prophets, true believers, martyrs and the righteous. The best of company are they!)

The guidance is of two sorts:
The first is in the life of the World: it is the guidance to "the exclusive devotion to God alone" and the righteousness;
and the second, is in the Next Life, which is the guidance to the way to Paradise.

This is indicated by His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 10: 9 which means:
(Surely, those who believe and work the righteous [work]; their Lord will guide them [to the way to Paradise] because of their faith [in God and in His messenger]; rivers will flow below their [trees] in the Gardens of prosperity.)

j It means: neither [the way] of those [Jews who associated with God and worshipped the calf; therefore, You became wrathful with them.]
k It means: nor the way of Christians who missed the way of the truth: because they said God is one of three in Trinity.
The meaning: Don't lead us to the way followed by the stubborn disbeliever who recognized the truth but turned away from it according to their pride and stubbornness; so You became wrathful with them because of their disbelief and association.

This is indicated by His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 4: 168-169 which means:
(Surely, those who disbelieve [in that revealed to you, Mohammed], and oppress [the believers] – God would not forgive them [their sins] neither will He guide them to any road [to Paradise] – save the road to Hell)

The meaning of the aya 1: 7
Let us be of those whose acts are good so they will go to Paradise; and don't let us be of those whose acts are bad so they will go to Hell."

So the guidance in this life of the World is the guidance to the true way of monotheism and the 'exclusive devotion to God alone', and to believe in the Quran and Prophet Mohammed in addition to all other prophets.
This guidance will lead to the guidance in the Next Life: it is the guidance to the way to Paradise; because none knows the way to Paradise, but God will send the angels and they will pick the believers in the monotheism and drive them to the way to Paradise or heaven.

Quran 3: 185
{You shall only be paid your full recompense b on the Judgment Day.
Then whosoever will forcibly be removed away from the Fire and be admitted into Paradise will have indeed wined c }
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b Of your acts: good for the good and punishment for the evil.
c With a great success.

On Judgment Day souls will be gathered together around the sun, then the angels will come and drag the righteous souls away from the gravity of the sun and take them to Paradise; while the evil disbelieving souls will remain suffering in their places under the influence of the sun gravity;

so this is the meaning of (Then whosoever will forcibly be removed away from the Fire); it means: anyone who is forcibly removed by the angels away from the sun and its gravity, and the angels will take him to Paradise, then he indeed will have gained a great success; while anyone who will remain bounded by the gravity of the sun, he indeed will have lost completely.

This meaning is also evident in the Quran 39: 61
{ 61. But God will rescue [from Hell] those who ward off [the association and the disobedience of God] by their 'angelic squads' b. }
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b i.e. by their angels who were with them in the life of the World writing down their deeds; so that God will order the angels to take them out of Hell; so the ‘squad’ is the group having such duty; in the Iraqi army, it is called ‘Mafraza’. Therefore, the angels are the host of God.

Similar to this aya in meaning is His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 19: 72, which means:
(Then We shall save [from the gravity of Gehenna] those who warded off [God's disobedience], and shall leave the wrong-doers crowding therein.)

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Old 10-04-2015, 02:13 PM
 
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"Juju is not poor, Juju is a wrong-doer deserving the misguidance; and so God misguides him; if he had been righteous then God would have guided him."

What did Juju do wrong to deserve endless terrible torture like burning alive for all eternity?
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