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Old 10-25-2015, 03:46 PM
 
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Muslim women are blessed with an amazing level of intelligence as are East Indian women.
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Isn't that true of all women in the world, or is there a racial or ethnic or religious group of women that are not blessed "with an amazing level of intelligence"?
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There are intelligent women in every segment.
So do you agree that all groups of women have the same overall level of intelligence, regardless of their race, ethnicity, or religion?

I would really appreciate a Yes or No answer.
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Old 10-25-2015, 04:20 PM
 
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So do you agree that all groups of women have the same overall level of intelligence, regardless of their race, ethnicity, or religion?

I would really appreciate a Yes or No answer.
Yes
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Old 10-25-2015, 05:56 PM
 
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.... many Muslims are progressive, well educated and charitable.
Having had Muslim co-workers and neighbors... that's been my experience.
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Old 10-30-2015, 05:33 PM
 
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That is wonderful that you know educated and progressive Muslims. I don't know how you define "progressive." I know many Muslims that are educated but have backwards ideas on women. Women are still treated like second class citizens. The men I know would rather marry their sisters or even their mothers because what they say goes. I know many Muslim women that are married to Muslim men that talk to their sisters and brothers in secret and do whatever their siblings tell them to do. I know a Muslim man who should have married his sister. He treats his sister a 100 times better than his wife and kids and he isn't the only one.
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Old 10-30-2015, 05:58 PM
 
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That is wonderful that you know educated and progressive Muslims. I don't know how you define "progressive." I know many Muslims that are educated but have backwards ideas on women. Women are still treated like second class citizens. The men I know would rather marry their sisters or even their mothers because what they say goes. I know many Muslim women that are married to Muslim men that talk to their sisters and brothers in secret and do whatever their siblings tell them to do. I know a Muslim man who should have married his sister. He treats his sister a 100 times better than his wife and kids and he isn't the only one.
I know very few Muslim Women, about the only ones I know are my Doctors, My wife and my Daughters.

My wife is a long retired business owner, she used to own auto repair shopes im Seattle and Reno. did quite well for herself. Both my Daughters were Nurses. the oldest one quit nursing after 20 years and owns a trucking line her Husband works for her. My youngest daughter retired and she and her Husband spend much of their time traveling for pleasure.

The other Muslim women I know are Doctors.
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Old 10-31-2015, 07:42 AM
 
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"So do you agree that all groups of women have the same overall level of intelligence, regardless of their race, ethnicity, or religion?"

This is an interesting question.

First, we have to define intelligence:
capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc.

Individually, we have different natural endowments. This endowment is not based on religion or race or gender. It's based on the individual's capacity. Think of a bell shaped curve....some are born with a much greater capacity than others, some with far less capacity. Most of us have a similar capacity.

The use of intelligence is an acquired skill. It has to be acquired by a child’s own effort and automatized by his own mind, but adults can help or hinder him in this crucial process.

So then the question becomes: Does Islam help women acquire the use of their naturally endowed intelligence.

The answer is no. Nor does it help men.

One proof is the level of illiteracy.

"Of the 1.4 billion Muslims 800 million are illiterate (6 out of 10 Muslims cannot read). In Christendom, adult literacy rate stands at 78 percent."

"Large numbers of children in African and Arab countries are still shut out of classrooms, with primary school participation at below 60% in 17 OIC countries. More than half the adult population is illiterate in some countries, and the proportion is as high as 70% among women. Four out of 10 children in the African sub-region are out of school, as are a quarter of children in Arab member states."

"The 57-member countries of the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) have around 500 universities compared with more than 5,000 universities in the US and more than 8,000 in India. In 2004, Shanghai Jiao Tong University compiled an "Academic Ranking of World Universities", and none of the universities from Muslim-majority states was included in the top 500."

"The 2002 United Nations Arab Development Report, compiled by leading Arab scholars and intellectuals, reported that fewer than 350 books were translated into Arabic every year, less than one-fifth the number translated into Greek. The 2003 report added that the 10,000 books translated into Spanish every year exceeded those translated into Arabic— over the entire millennium."

"Two thirds of all immigrant school children with Arabic backgrounds are illiterate after 10 years in the Danish school system. Those who speak Arabic with their parents have an extreme tendency to lack reading abilities - 64 percent are illiterate. ... No matter if it concerns reading abilities, mathematics or science, the pattern is the same: The bilingual (largely Muslim) immigrants' skills are exceedingly poor compared to their Danish classmates."

"Made available to INDIA TODAY exclusively, the findings are disheartening. The facts irrefutably demonstrate that, on an average, Muslim men and women are far less educationally accomplished than their non-Muslim counterparts, and this is so across almost every state in India."

"The global standing of Indonesia’s universities has dropped according to the latest world rankings published by Quacquarelli Symonds. The University of Indonesia, remains No. 1 in the country, but is only ranked 273rd globally."

"Illiteracy among Nigerian women of child-bearing age is three times as high among Muslims (71.9%) as among others (23.9%). Two-thirds of Nigerian Muslim women lack any formal education; that goes for just over a tenth of their non-Muslim sisters."

There is much more. The lucky Muslims will get a Western education.

Muslim Statistics (Education and Employment) - WikiIslam

Islam does not foster intelligence in women, or men.
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Old 11-05-2015, 08:47 PM
 
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in reality Arabs are the most intelligent people in the world. Even more so than Jews and East Asians. They pioneered science and mathematics. They own most of the worlds wealth in reality (not the Jews). Very sad that they waste their intellect on Islam. Sorry to speak the truth.
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:50 AM
 
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"in reality Arabs are the most intelligent people in the world. "

My above post proves this wrong.

"They pioneered science and mathematics."

Actually, no. Often they took what others had pioneered:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCtjXpLyvxA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebr...ory_of_algebra

How Islamic Inventors Did Not Change The World - WikiIslam

"They own most of the worlds wealth in reality (not the Jews). "

What wealth they own comes mostly from oil, which the West had to teach them how to extract and process. For example:
"The new kingdom was one of the poorest countries in the world, reliant on limited agriculture and pilgrimage revenues.[56] However, in 1938, vast reserves of oil were discovered in the Al-Ahsa region along the coast of the Persian Gulf, and full-scale development of the oil fields began in 1941 under the US-controlled Aramco (Arabian American Oil Company). Oil provided Saudi Arabia with economic prosperity and substantial political leverage internationally."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia

But do they own most of the world's wealth?

https://www.worldwealthreport.com/

And:
"According to a study from 2015, Christians hold the largest amount of wealth (55% of the total world wealth), followed by Muslims (5.8%), Hindus (3.3%) and Jewish (1.1%). According to the same study it was found that adherents under the classification Irreligion or other religions hold about 34.8% of the total global wealth.[2]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_and_religion
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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"in reality Arabs are the most intelligent people in the world. "

My above post proves this wrong.

"They pioneered science and mathematics."

Actually, no. Often they took what others had pioneered:

You are being redirected...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCtjXpLyvxA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebr...ory_of_algebra

How Islamic Inventors Did Not Change The World - WikiIslam

"They own most of the worlds wealth in reality (not the Jews). "

What wealth they own comes mostly from oil, which the West had to teach them how to extract and process. For example:
"The new kingdom was one of the poorest countries in the world, reliant on limited agriculture and pilgrimage revenues.[56] However, in 1938, vast reserves of oil were discovered in the Al-Ahsa region along the coast of the Persian Gulf, and full-scale development of the oil fields began in 1941 under the US-controlled Aramco (Arabian American Oil Company). Oil provided Saudi Arabia with economic prosperity and substantial political leverage internationally."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia

But do they own most of the world's wealth?

https://www.worldwealthreport.com/

And:
"According to a study from 2015, Christians hold the largest amount of wealth (55% of the total world wealth), followed by Muslims (5.8%), Hindus (3.3%) and Jewish (1.1%). According to the same study it was found that adherents under the classification Irreligion or other religions hold about 34.8% of the total global wealth.[2]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_and_religion
Interesting thing about statistic is they only show the percentage of the surveyed population and may or may not reflect all people.

What can be shown is the per capita income of each Nation

For example the Nations with the highest per capita income

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...%29_per_capita

Places Qatar as the world's richest Nation and also list Brunei, Kuwait, UAE as having a higher per capita income higher than the USA with Saudia Arabia being just slightly lower.

but that does not really say much of anything. What is more interesting is that 80 people hold more wealth than the combined wealth of 50% of the world's population.

Meet The 80 People Who Are As Rich As Half The World | FiveThirtyEight
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Old 11-06-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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"Places Qatar as the world's richest Nation and also list Brunei, Kuwait, UAE as having a higher per capita income higher than the USA with Saudia Arabia being just slightly lower."

WOW! I'll take you at your word and say that Muslims are far more evil than I imagined. All these incredibly wealthy Islamic nations yet the Muslim refugees are flooding into poor Western countries and taking massive handouts and destroying economies. With all this massive wealth, why aren't these incredibly rich MUSLIMS helping their fellow Muslims? Why do the infidels have to support and shelter and protect all these homeless Muslims??

Where is the charity for fellow Muslims? Talk about greed!!

This is sickening. Muslims have the most wealth in the world, yet ignore the plight of Muslim refugees and turn their backs on fellow Muslims. Western countries full of disbelievers, the very ones that allah wants to torture endlessly and Muhammed wants slaughtered, are taking in these Muslims and despite threats of terrorism and mass slaughter and gangs that are mass raping the citizens of these countries, are giving these Muslims so very much....homes, food, welfare.....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcqeoMy-NFk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOcpBUYVOm8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrSGZswoeL8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplM...ion_3096601141


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl16QDk2sig


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Th6h5jX8g
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