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Old 11-20-2015, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Bordentown
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Correct. Democracy is mob rule. It should not be the way in any country. This is why UNALIENABLE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS are so important...and why the USA has a Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Islam takes away individual rights by force, and sadly, our politicians are doing a good job of it also.
hear, hear!

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Old 11-20-2015, 05:08 PM
 
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Yes of course.
Haven't you see that Malcolm X and Muhammad Ali killed innocent people ?
This is part of the religion, that's why M. Ali is still enjoying his life and is not in jail right now...

Do you have other stupid questions like that ?

You probably have more chance to die in some areas in Chicago or LA than in the streets of Dubai or Istanbul.
Ah my God all those foreign tourists over there may die ! A muslim may kill them to fulfill his religion ...
Excuse me but you were the one who threatened people when you said that you would want to see everyone convert "for their own good."
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Old 11-20-2015, 05:30 PM
 
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Next time you are in an ER fighting for your life, your doctor could just be a MUSLIM doctor (there are THOUSANDS working in the U.S. Hospitals). So make sure to tell him to take your life and fullfil his religion
Oh, I think that Muslim doctor may well know to kill you.

When Your Doctor is a Muslim: Medical Terrorism Comes to America
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Old 11-20-2015, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Oh, I think that Muslim doctor may well know to kill you.

When Your Doctor is a Muslim: Medical Terrorism Comes to America
There have been Muslim doctors in the USA for quite a while now. Nearly 10% of the doctors in the US are Muslim. Many perhaps most are not recent arrivals and were born here.



Muslims Don't Contribute to America? Think Again

Islamic Medical Association of North America (IMANA)

AMWPA - American Muslim Women Physicians

Islam in America: Muslim American Leaders, Physicians Join Effort to Reform Health Care | WRMEA
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Old 11-20-2015, 07:04 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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There have been Muslim doctors in the USA for quite a while now. Nearly 10% of the doctors in the US are Muslim. Many perhaps most are not recent arrivals and were born here.



Muslims Don't Contribute to America? Think Again

Islamic Medical Association of North America (IMANA)

AMWPA - American Muslim Women Physicians

Islam in America: Muslim American Leaders, Physicians Join Effort to Reform Health Care | WRMEA
Yeah, that link was pure hate vitriol. That crap doesn't help anything.

My Muslim doctor takes great care of me (we have a lot of them in Canada). Still think like all Abrahamic religions, I can't understand the avocation and adherence of Bronze aged myths, but as long as they don't affect me, meh, who cares. My doctor is a professional, and his religion is his business, not mine.

The trouble is that much of Muslim thought is about 600 years behind the predominant Christian thought as far as society is concerned. Large portions still advocate punishments the Christian, and Jewish cohorts of the Abrahamic trinity long ago walked away from as cruel, unusual and torturous. Some of those even live in North America.
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Old 11-20-2015, 07:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Woodrow LI View Post
There have been Muslim doctors in the USA for quite a while now. Nearly 10% of the doctors in the US are Muslim. Many perhaps most are not recent arrivals and were born here.



Muslims Don't Contribute to America? Think Again

Islamic Medical Association of North America (IMANA)

AMWPA - American Muslim Women Physicians

Islam in America: Muslim American Leaders, Physicians Join Effort to Reform Health Care | WRMEA
Very frightening.

45 Muslim doctors planned US terror raids - Telegraph
"A group of 45 Muslim doctors threatened to use car bombs and rocket grenades in terrorist attacks in the United States during discussions on an extremist internet chat site. One message read: "We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake jihad and take the battle inside America.
"The first target which will be penetrated by nine brothers is the naval base which gives shelter to the ship Kennedy." This is thought to have been a reference to the USS John F Kennedy, which is often at Mayport Naval Base in Jacksonville, Florida.
The message discussed targets at the base, adding: "These are clubs for naked women which are opposite the First and Third units."
It also referred to using six Chevrolet GT vehicles and three fishing boats and blowing up petrol tanks with rocket propelled grenades.
Investigators have found no link between the Tsouli chat room and the group of doctors and medics currently in custody over attempted car bomb attacks in London and Glasgow."


SERVES YOU RIGHT, AMERICANS
"CNN Dr. Farid Fata, 50, pleaded guilty in September to giving cancer treatments to misdiagnosed patients, telling some they had a terminal blood cancer called multiple myeloma. He pleaded guilty to 13 counts of Medicare fraud, one count of conspiracy to pay or receive kickbacks and two counts of money laundering.

Federal prosecutors called him the “most egregious ********* in the history of this country.” To Fata, they said, “patients were not people. They were profit centers.

But Fata isn’t the only crooked Muslim doctor in the U.S.. Lebanese Drug Dealer & Medicare Defrauder Dr. Hussein ‘Sam’ Awada from Michigan also pleaded guilty to health care fraud in the hearing before U.S. District Judge Nancy Edmunds. He admitted billing Medicare, Medicaid, and Blue Cross Blue Shield for numerous medical procedures that were not medically justified and he sent millions of dollars stuffed in furniture back to Lebanon.”


"MUSLIM MEDICAL ASSOCIATION URGES DOCTORS TO AMPUTATE THE HANDS OF THIEVES"
Before all do no harm is not exactly a major Muslim medical principle. Before all follow Sharia law is. And that's a problem in Malaysia, which Obama compared to the US, but which is going down the dark road of Islamic law.

The Malaysian Medical Association (MMA) has disrespected Muslims and Muslim doctors by threatening to axe doctors who perform amputations under hudud, according to Muslim medical practitioners’ group i-Medik.

Muslim doctors have sworn to an Islamic doctor’s oath which also binds them to Islam as a way of life and the implementation of Islamic laws including hudud, it added.

“A Muslim doctor performs his task according to the Islamic medical doctor’s oath, which fully supports Islam as a way of life, and this includes fully supporting Shariah laws,” i-Medik chairman Prof Dr Azmi Md Nor said.

So two medical associations. One professional and one Islamic. The Islamic one would like doctors to mutilate people. Because Islam is what it is."
Muslim Medical Association Urges Doctors to Amputate the Hands of Thieves | Frontpage Mag

When Your Doctor is a Muslim: Medical Terrorism Comes to America
"But even in hospitals where they do not predominate, Muslim doctors are starting to demonstrate behavior toward non-Muslim patients that is beyond alarming.
On December 1, 2003, Joe Applebaum was admitted to Rush North Shore Medical Center, a major hospital in Chicago. He was stricken with an acute (or distended) abdomen–a swelling of the stomach that is easily diagnosed and treated. But it was never treated by anyone at the hospital. For 12 hours, Joe Applebaum was left alone–left to die, which he did the next day.
A Jewish man, he was identified as a Jew on the front page of his medical chart. The chief resident doctor assigned to treat Mr. Applebaum, Osama Ahmed Ibrahim, MD, sure noticed the religious notation on Applebaum’s chart. And it appears that this is why he never once checked or examined this emergency patient, Mr. Applebaum, and left him to die. When another doctor at the hospital finally examined Mr. Applebaum–not his assigned doctor, Dr. Ibrahim, he told Applebaum’s son, Michael, to say good-bye to his father because he was about to die.
Dr. Ibrahim, is a Muslim from Birmingham, England–a hotbed of Islamic radicalism and terror planning. It is breeding ground for anti-Semitic hate. He is a graduate of Ain Shams University Medical School in Egypt. This extremist school featured on its faculty the father of Al-Qaeda mastermind and number two, Dr. Ayman Al-Zawahiri. Pere Zawahiri was a Muslim Brotherhood activist.
Other Ain Shams faculty members and grads include:
* late HAMAS leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin;
* Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammed Mahdi Akef;
* LAX terrorist shooter Hesham Mohamed Hedayet;
* Extremist Canadian Imam, Aly Hindy; and
* Co-leader of Yemen’s extremist Al-Islah Party, Abdul Majeed Al-Zindani.

Why did Dr. Ibrahim neglect a patient who came in with an easily treatable condition and leave him to die, 12 hours later? It appears it can only be because he did not want to treat a Jewish patient and let him live. There can be no other reason."
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Old 11-20-2015, 07:40 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Very frightening.

45 Muslim doctors planned US terror raids - Telegraph
"A group of 45 Muslim doctors threatened to use car bombs and rocket grenades in terrorist attacks in the United States during discussions on an extremist internet chat site. One message read: "We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake jihad and take the battle inside America.
"The first target which will be penetrated by nine brothers is the naval base which gives shelter to the ship Kennedy." This is thought to have been a reference to the USS John F Kennedy, which is often at Mayport Naval Base in Jacksonville, Florida.
The message discussed targets at the base, adding: "These are clubs for naked women which are opposite the First and Third units."
It also referred to using six Chevrolet GT vehicles and three fishing boats and blowing up petrol tanks with rocket propelled grenades.
Investigators have found no link between the Tsouli chat room and the group of doctors and medics currently in custody over attempted car bomb attacks in London and Glasgow."


SERVES YOU RIGHT, AMERICANS
"CNN Dr. Farid Fata, 50, pleaded guilty in September to giving cancer treatments to misdiagnosed patients, telling some they had a terminal blood cancer called multiple myeloma. He pleaded guilty to 13 counts of Medicare fraud, one count of conspiracy to pay or receive kickbacks and two counts of money laundering.

Federal prosecutors called him the “most egregious ********* in the history of this country.” To Fata, they said, “patients were not people. They were profit centers.

But Fata isn’t the only crooked Muslim doctor in the U.S.. Lebanese Drug Dealer & Medicare Defrauder Dr. Hussein ‘Sam’ Awada from Michigan also pleaded guilty to health care fraud in the hearing before U.S. District Judge Nancy Edmunds. He admitted billing Medicare, Medicaid, and Blue Cross Blue Shield for numerous medical procedures that were not medically justified and he sent millions of dollars stuffed in furniture back to Lebanon.”


"MUSLIM MEDICAL ASSOCIATION URGES DOCTORS TO AMPUTATE THE HANDS OF THIEVES"
Before all do no harm is not exactly a major Muslim medical principle. Before all follow Sharia law is. And that's a problem in Malaysia, which Obama compared to the US, but which is going down the dark road of Islamic law.

The Malaysian Medical Association (MMA) has disrespected Muslims and Muslim doctors by threatening to axe doctors who perform amputations under hudud, according to Muslim medical practitioners’ group i-Medik.

Muslim doctors have sworn to an Islamic doctor’s oath which also binds them to Islam as a way of life and the implementation of Islamic laws including hudud, it added.

“A Muslim doctor performs his task according to the Islamic medical doctor’s oath, which fully supports Islam as a way of life, and this includes fully supporting Shariah laws,” i-Medik chairman Prof Dr Azmi Md Nor said.

So two medical associations. One professional and one Islamic. The Islamic one would like doctors to mutilate people. Because Islam is what it is."
Muslim Medical Association Urges Doctors to Amputate the Hands of Thieves | Frontpage Mag

When Your Doctor is a Muslim: Medical Terrorism Comes to America
"But even in hospitals where they do not predominate, Muslim doctors are starting to demonstrate behavior toward non-Muslim patients that is beyond alarming.
On December 1, 2003, Joe Applebaum was admitted to Rush North Shore Medical Center, a major hospital in Chicago. He was stricken with an acute (or distended) abdomen–a swelling of the stomach that is easily diagnosed and treated. But it was never treated by anyone at the hospital. For 12 hours, Joe Applebaum was left alone–left to die, which he did the next day.
A Jewish man, he was identified as a Jew on the front page of his medical chart. The chief resident doctor assigned to treat Mr. Applebaum, Osama Ahmed Ibrahim, MD, sure noticed the religious notation on Applebaum’s chart. And it appears that this is why he never once checked or examined this emergency patient, Mr. Applebaum, and left him to die. When another doctor at the hospital finally examined Mr. Applebaum–not his assigned doctor, Dr. Ibrahim, he told Applebaum’s son, Michael, to say good-bye to his father because he was about to die.
Dr. Ibrahim, is a Muslim from Birmingham, England–a hotbed of Islamic radicalism and terror planning. It is breeding ground for anti-Semitic hate. He is a graduate of Ain Shams University Medical School in Egypt. This extremist school featured on its faculty the father of Al-Qaeda mastermind and number two, Dr. Ayman Al-Zawahiri. Pere Zawahiri was a Muslim Brotherhood activist.
Other Ain Shams faculty members and grads include:
* late HAMAS leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin;
* Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammed Mahdi Akef;
* LAX terrorist shooter Hesham Mohamed Hedayet;
* Extremist Canadian Imam, Aly Hindy; and
* Co-leader of Yemen’s extremist Al-Islah Party, Abdul Majeed Al-Zindani.

Why did Dr. Ibrahim neglect a patient who came in with an easily treatable condition and leave him to die, 12 hours later? It appears it can only be because he did not want to treat a Jewish patient and let him live. There can be no other reason."
You should do your patriotic duty and ensure that this information is known by the CIA, FBI, NSA, ODNI, HSI, ONI, INCOM, CSS, SS, NGA, I&A, OICI, INR, TFI, DIA, and I am sure I missed a few. I mean, this is so earth shattering, it would be horrible if any of those agencies were not cognizant of your revelations.

Be a man. Do it NOW.
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Old 11-20-2015, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Very frightening.

45 Muslim doctors planned US terror raids - Telegraph
"A group of 45 Muslim doctors threatened to use car bombs and rocket grenades in terrorist attacks in the United States during discussions on an extremist internet chat site. One message read: "We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake jihad and take the battle inside America.
"The first target which will be penetrated by nine brothers is the naval base which gives shelter to the ship Kennedy." This is thought to have been a reference to the USS John F Kennedy, which is often at Mayport Naval Base in Jacksonville, Florida.
The message discussed targets at the base, adding: "These are clubs for naked women which are opposite the First and Third units."
It also referred to using six Chevrolet GT vehicles and three fishing boats and blowing up petrol tanks with rocket propelled grenades.
Investigators have found no link between the Tsouli chat room and the group of doctors and medics currently in custody over attempted car bomb attacks in London and Glasgow."


SERVES YOU RIGHT, AMERICANS
"CNN Dr. Farid Fata, 50, pleaded guilty in September to giving cancer treatments to misdiagnosed patients, telling some they had a terminal blood cancer called multiple myeloma. He pleaded guilty to 13 counts of Medicare fraud, one count of conspiracy to pay or receive kickbacks and two counts of money laundering.

Federal prosecutors called him the “most egregious ********* in the history of this country.” To Fata, they said, “patients were not people. They were profit centers.

But Fata isn’t the only crooked Muslim doctor in the U.S.. Lebanese Drug Dealer & Medicare Defrauder Dr. Hussein ‘Sam’ Awada from Michigan also pleaded guilty to health care fraud in the hearing before U.S. District Judge Nancy Edmunds. He admitted billing Medicare, Medicaid, and Blue Cross Blue Shield for numerous medical procedures that were not medically justified and he sent millions of dollars stuffed in furniture back to Lebanon.”


"MUSLIM MEDICAL ASSOCIATION URGES DOCTORS TO AMPUTATE THE HANDS OF THIEVES"
Before all do no harm is not exactly a major Muslim medical principle. Before all follow Sharia law is. And that's a problem in Malaysia, which Obama compared to the US, but which is going down the dark road of Islamic law.

The Malaysian Medical Association (MMA) has disrespected Muslims and Muslim doctors by threatening to axe doctors who perform amputations under hudud, according to Muslim medical practitioners’ group i-Medik.

Muslim doctors have sworn to an Islamic doctor’s oath which also binds them to Islam as a way of life and the implementation of Islamic laws including hudud, it added.

“A Muslim doctor performs his task according to the Islamic medical doctor’s oath, which fully supports Islam as a way of life, and this includes fully supporting Shariah laws,” i-Medik chairman Prof Dr Azmi Md Nor said.

So two medical associations. One professional and one Islamic. The Islamic one would like doctors to mutilate people. Because Islam is what it is."
Muslim Medical Association Urges Doctors to Amputate the Hands of Thieves | Frontpage Mag

When Your Doctor is a Muslim: Medical Terrorism Comes to America
"But even in hospitals where they do not predominate, Muslim doctors are starting to demonstrate behavior toward non-Muslim patients that is beyond alarming.
On December 1, 2003, Joe Applebaum was admitted to Rush North Shore Medical Center, a major hospital in Chicago. He was stricken with an acute (or distended) abdomen–a swelling of the stomach that is easily diagnosed and treated. But it was never treated by anyone at the hospital. For 12 hours, Joe Applebaum was left alone–left to die, which he did the next day.
A Jewish man, he was identified as a Jew on the front page of his medical chart. The chief resident doctor assigned to treat Mr. Applebaum, Osama Ahmed Ibrahim, MD, sure noticed the religious notation on Applebaum’s chart. And it appears that this is why he never once checked or examined this emergency patient, Mr. Applebaum, and left him to die. When another doctor at the hospital finally examined Mr. Applebaum–not his assigned doctor, Dr. Ibrahim, he told Applebaum’s son, Michael, to say good-bye to his father because he was about to die.
Dr. Ibrahim, is a Muslim from Birmingham, England–a hotbed of Islamic radicalism and terror planning. It is breeding ground for anti-Semitic hate. He is a graduate of Ain Shams University Medical School in Egypt. This extremist school featured on its faculty the father of Al-Qaeda mastermind and number two, Dr. Ayman Al-Zawahiri. Pere Zawahiri was a Muslim Brotherhood activist.
Other Ain Shams faculty members and grads include:
* late HAMAS leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin;
* Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammed Mahdi Akef;
* LAX terrorist shooter Hesham Mohamed Hedayet;
* Extremist Canadian Imam, Aly Hindy; and
* Co-leader of Yemen’s extremist Al-Islah Party, Abdul Majeed Al-Zindani.

Why did Dr. Ibrahim neglect a patient who came in with an easily treatable condition and leave him to die, 12 hours later? It appears it can only be because he did not want to treat a Jewish patient and let him live. There can be no other reason."
from the above:

The Malaysian Medical Association (MMA) has disrespected Muslims and Muslim doctors by threatening to axe doctors who perform amputations under hudud, according to Muslim medical practitioners’ group i-Medik.

You are aware Malaysia is an Islamic nation under Sharia law.

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note - Malaysia has a dual judicial hierarchy of civil and religious (sharia) courts
judge selection and term of office: Federal Court justices appointed by the monarch on advice of the prime minister; judges serve till age 65
subordinate courts: Court of Appeal; High Court; Sessions Court; Magistrates' Court
Malaysia Government 2015, CIA World Factbook

To axe someone generally means to fire them. Not to literally take an ax to someone. I doubt if some one opposed to amputation for theft, is the type of person who would actually attack anyone with an axe.
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Old 11-20-2015, 08:48 PM
 
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The Malaysian Medical Association (MMA) has disrespected Muslims and Muslim doctors by threatening to axe doctors who perform amputations under hudud, according to Muslim medical practitioners’ group i-Medik.

You are aware Malaysia is an Islamic nation under Sharia law.

Malaysia Government 2015, CIA World Factbook

To axe someone generally means to fire them. Not to literally take an ax to someone. I doubt if some one opposed to amputation for theft, is the type of person who would actually attack anyone with an axe.
A group representing Muslim physicians has defied the Health Ministry and Malaysian Medical Association on the hudud issue, saying that its members will amputate limbs "in the most humane manner possible".

Pertubuhan Ikram Malaysia president Dr Mohammed Fauzi Abdul Rani said syariah law mandates Muslim physicians to perform the surgical procedure as instructed by syariah courts and as such, Muslim physicians must abide by it.

Fauzi said Muslim physicians are subservient to the higher ideals of syariah law to protect the general public.

On the Hippocratic Oath where physicians are expected to "do no harm" (primum non nocere), he said Muslim doctors are not doing any harm to a criminal who has transgressed the boundaries of social justice and has to undergo a punishment prescribed by Islamic law.



Muslim doctors cutting off the hands of thieves!! As Islam demands! How peaceful! How non-violent.
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Old 11-21-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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A group representing Muslim physicians has defied the Health Ministry and Malaysian Medical Association on the hudud issue, saying that its members will amputate limbs "in the most humane manner possible".

Pertubuhan Ikram Malaysia president Dr Mohammed Fauzi Abdul Rani said syariah law mandates Muslim physicians to perform the surgical procedure as instructed by syariah courts and as such, Muslim physicians must abide by it.

Fauzi said Muslim physicians are subservient to the higher ideals of syariah law to protect the general public.

On the Hippocratic Oath where physicians are expected to "do no harm" (primum non nocere), he said Muslim doctors are not doing any harm to a criminal who has transgressed the boundaries of social justice and has to undergo a punishment prescribed by Islamic law.



Muslim doctors cutting off the hands of thieves!! As Islam demands! How peaceful! How non-violent.
Much of it is in the eyes of the beholder.

I for one find incarceration to be a very cruel punishment, depriving a person of privacy and freedom, caged like a captive beast in a compound filled with the dirges of humanity. Little is gained, the incarcerated make no cotribution or restitution for their crimes, often innocent family members also suffer by the loss. Our prison system has become a major industry and we have the largest prison population in the world, with no indication of crime reduction. but I am not advocating any state or nation abandon their system of Criminal Jurisprudence. A nation should have the right to utilize the legal system the majority agrees with.

while amputation for theft is very drastic and quite reprehensible, it should also be known that under Sharia is is not used for a first time offens, it is not to be used for the theft of necessities such as food or clothing, the theft must be the personal property of a non-relative, it must exceed a certain value, the owner must have had it in a secure location and not in public view, the theft must be witnessed, the theif must have made a finacial gain and must have been given an opportunity to make full restitution and refused to do so. It is not a punishment likely to be used if actual Shariah under one of the 4 madhabs is followed.
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