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Old 11-06-2015, 12:16 PM
 
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I copied this from an email I received. Sorry, it is very long, but utmost important and very well worth the read.

Snopes: Geert Wilders: America as the Last Man Standing : snopes.com

Origins: Geert Wilders is a Dutch politician, a member of the House of Representatives and the chairman of the Netherlands' Party for Freedom (currently the fourth largest party in the Dutch parliament).

Mr. Wilders is well known in his home country for his strong criticism of Islam, having stated at various times that "Islamic ideology has to be defeated" and "there is no such thing as 'moderate Islam,'" summing up his views by saying, "I don't hate Muslims, I hate Islam" and advocating that the Netherlands ban the Quran, Islamic dress, and the further immigration of Muslims to that country. The item referenced above is the text of a speech on the topic of Islam delivered by Mr. Wilders at the Four Seasons in New York, during a lunch sponsored by the Hudson Institute on 25 September 2008 (and commonly titled "America as the Last Man Standing" in Internet circulation).

In 2010-11 Geert Wilders was put on trial in the Netherlands, charged with five counts of inciting racial hatred over his anti-Islamic public statements. He was acquitted in June 2011.



This speech is by Geert Wilders back in 2009. I'm sure with the influx of Muslim refugees, the statistics and seriousness of the situation has changed tenfold.

In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: "Who lost Europe?"

Thank you very much for inviting me. I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic.
We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.
First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem.

The Europe you know is changing.

You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.
All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.
There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe with larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseilles and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammad is the most popular name among boys in many cities. In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.
Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear '*****, *****'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.

In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.
In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighbourhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan.
Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhardt Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.
Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.

The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.
Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators settler's. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies; they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.

Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.
The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammad himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is Sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz. Second because it is a democracy. And third because Israel is our first line of defense.

This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia. Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

The war against Israel is not a war against Israel. It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel, Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.

Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West. It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel, they can get everything. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islam as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'. In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem.

Dear friends, Liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe, American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply do not have the right to do so.

We have to take the necessary action now to stop this Islamic stupidity from destroying the free world that we know.
Please take the time to read and understand what is written here, please send it to every free person that you know - it is so very important."
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Old 11-06-2015, 02:59 PM
 
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The evidence against Islam is overwhelming.
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:18 PM
 
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The evidence against Islam is overwhelming.
Only to those that are not Muslims.
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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"Only to those that are not Muslims."

Indeed. Which is why Islam can never reform. Muslims have no rational code of morality and a great talent for evading reality.
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Old 11-06-2015, 07:09 PM
 
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Geert Wilders was talking facts against the 'hatred'* by some Muslims as inspired by their holy texts.
In 2010-11 Geert Wilders was put on trial in the Netherlands, charged with five counts of inciting racial hatred over his anti-Islamic public statements. He was acquitted in June 2011.
Here is the irony, while Wilders was warning against real 'hatred' and 'threats', he was charged with inciting racial hatred.
When is Islam ever considered a 'race'?
* I am using the term 'hatred' in a very loose way.


From my extensive reading of the Quran, I note the Quran [in part] is a book of 'hatred' against non-Muslims that inspires SOME [20% =300 million ] Muslims to commit terrible evils and violence on non-Muslims all over the world. The reality of this is glaringly evident and yet the various authorities are stupidly ignorant about this fact.
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Old 11-07-2015, 04:22 AM
 
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If you belonged to a supposedly "peaceful" religion (I use that term loosely), and saw fellow members committing acts of terrorism and cruelty, would you not stand up and say STOP it, you are hurting all of us, hurting how the world views us?

Standing idly by, watching, saying nothing, and letting fellow members do their deeds makes them JUST as guilty, JUST as evil, and just as dangerous as the ones committing the crimes against fellow man.

I wonder how many women hide bruises underneath their flowing garbs, and how a mother can allow, and even help a father to kill their girl-child because she "shamed" their family, I just can't comprehend.
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Old 11-07-2015, 07:07 AM
 
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gouligann, these same people have total submission to a god that makes '50 Shades of Grey' and Hannibal Lecter look like a kindergarten class. I can't stand to see someone mistreat a dog, yet Muslims love and submit to allah, who (they think) built the largest and most terrible torture chamber in the universe where he gleefully does things like this:

“for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods”

He (Allah) answered: "As for him who disbelieves, I shall leave him in contentment for a while, then I shall compel him to the torment of the Fire, and worst indeed is that destination!"

(Have you ever seen someone burned alive? Imagine doing that to someone! For eternity! And enjoying it!)

When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.

(Behead them and cut off their fingers.)

They are those who disbelieve in their Lord! They are those who will have iron chains tying their hands to their necks. They will be dwellers of the Fire to abide therein.


This goes on for hundreds of verses. Imagine being burned alive and suffering the worst torture imaginable for eternity. This is what Muslims think disbelievers deserve. Woodrow has explained to me that if people learn about allah and have rejected allah, then those people deserve this endless torture because allah warned us. He called the threats of this torture LOVE.

I can see believing that disbelievers will not be allowed into their heaven. But to submit to a being that makes Charles Manson, Jeffery Dahmer and Jack the Ripper look slightly naughty....
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Old 11-07-2015, 12:52 PM
 
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Only to those that are not Muslims.
Funny how so many others get things wrong.
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Old 11-07-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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It's the 21st century, isn't it time people grew up, and let all this primitive superstition go?
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Old 11-07-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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It's the 21st century, isn't it time people grew up, and let all this primitive superstition go?
If Islam is followed, it is a very peaceful way of life and promotes peace and tolerance among all people. But like all people we do have those among us that go contrary to what they should not do.

Islam is not a religion in the English concept of Religion, it is a way of life that requires us to do all things in a manner that promotes the betterment of all people. We have no central religious leaders, no ordained clergy and no required religious study. It is all about individual personal responsibility and why we should strive to live in harmony with all people.

These are not the things you will read on the anti-Islamic sites or hear from those that either fear or hate Islam.

to learn what Islam is, you have to first understand we are all individuals. No one person or group speaks for Islam nor represents any Muslim except them self.

I can only speak of what I personally find Islam to be and how I practice Islam.

This is what I find to be an accurate portrayal of Islam:







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