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Old 11-19-2015, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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There was no ISIS on 9/11, yet there were all muslims. There was not ISIS when they tried to blow up the World Trade Center even before 9/11, yet they were all muslims.

isis is only an offshoot of a larger muslim terrorism problem. Over the last 20 years, every terrorist act committed by a muslim, even in the absence of isis, was done in the name of islam. Either you've got way too many crazy people following your religion or there's something wrong with your religion itself.
And the majority of them were from the Mideast. Or from Mideastern ancestry. Yet Mideasterners are less than 20% of the world's Muslims.

Perhaps the problem has to do with something in the Mideast and not Islam.
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Old 11-19-2015, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Not-a-Theist
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And the majority of them were from the Mideast. Or from Mideastern ancestry. Yet Mideasterners are less than 20% of the world's Muslims.

Perhaps the problem has to do with something in the Mideast and not Islam.
Blatant denial as usual.
Apply some analytical and objective skills.

The ultimate root cause in the mentioned cases regardless of who, where they are from, whatever reasons they give, etc., is always reducible to specifically Islam and the Quran as revealed to Muhammad via Gabriel from Allah during 610-632 AD.
 
Old 11-19-2015, 10:33 PM
 
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LOL, I could say the same about you and Allah. And you don't even have a video of him!

But yes, we have videos and the evidence is collaborated by many sources. We can watch TV and see what is happening in real time. And when caught, these terrorists are proud to brag about Islam and what they are doing.

AGAIN: I can't think of a single time where a terrorist was screaming about Allah and turned out to be a Christian. Do you have any examples?
So All we both have is faith.
I have faith in Allah, you have faith in News Media and the "evidence" they provide you.

All we can do now is wait and see. In the end it will be decided by itself.
 
Old 11-19-2015, 10:34 PM
 
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Out of all the religions, why does Islam marginalize women the most?
Why can't women drive in saudi arabia?
Why do they get attacked for going to school?
Why does "boko haram" mean "western education is evil"?
Why do women have to cover up completely and walk around dressed as a tent?
Why does Islam allow men to marry multiple women and it is even practiced in many arabic countries?
 
Old 11-19-2015, 11:00 PM
 
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So All we both have is faith.
I have faith in Allah, you have faith in News Media and the "evidence" they provide you.

All we can do now is wait and see. In the end it will be decided by itself.
Well, there are all those videos. And the almost 3,000 Muslims I have spoken with. And the Muslims speaking out in court or interviews. There's the TV reporting on many channels all over the world and reports by people who live in other countries. And, of course, we have competing news media which loves to expose any fakery by other news media. And, I've visited the locations of some of the news reports and have seen for myself. Then we have law enforcement and the court cases. Allah has none of this. No videos, no interviews, no photos, no place to visit him, nothing. And, he is metaphysically impossible

So what exactly are you saying? That the Paris slaughter did not happen? Or that Christians did it? That 9-11 was faked? That all news is a pack of lies and all news media is complete garbage? That all videos are faked? Were the tsunami coverages faked, too? Are the court cases faked? Is reality subjective?
 
Old 11-19-2015, 11:17 PM
 
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Here is a video that is pertinent to the OP


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atmRz5iD-8M

Documentary about Jihad, which is the struggle for the cause of the Islam Religion.
A study that digs deep into the beliefs and practices of Jihad.

Include the following;

1. Definition of 'Jihad'.

2. Quotations from Quran

3. Quotations from Hadiths

4. Jihadists' explanations why they accept Jihad as imperative and a duty as a Muslim in accordance to the Quran.

5. Speeches from top leaders of Al Qaeda and others.
 
Old 11-20-2015, 05:35 AM
 
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And the majority of them were from the Mideast. Or from Mideastern ancestry. Yet Mideasterners are less than 20% of the world's Muslims.

Perhaps the problem has to do with something in the Mideast and not Islam.
It doesn't matter if the muslim is from Iraq, Russia, Africa, Canada, USA, or the moon. It doesn't matter where they're from. What matters is that they all seem to interpret the teachings of the quran the same way.
Now, I'll say it again. Either you've got a hell of a lot of crazy people following your religion or there's something wrong with your religion.

Why don't Christians, Buddhists, Jews, etc commit terrorism on a global scale? Why is it only islam?
 
Old 11-20-2015, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Out of all the religions, why does Islam marginalize women the most?
Why can't women drive in saudi arabia?
Why do they get attacked for going to school?
Why does "boko haram" mean "western education is evil"?
Why do women have to cover up completely and walk around dressed as a tent?
Why does Islam allow men to marry multiple women and it is even practiced in many arabic countries?
Out of all the religions, why does Islam marginalize women the most?

why has every Islamic nation had at least one female Head of State and the US has never had a female president?


Why can't women drive in saudi arabia?

Because Saudi is an absolute Monarchy owned and ruled by the al-Saud Family since 1929. They follow the laws of the al-Saud family not the Qur'an.

One of the best F-15 Fighter pilots is Major Mariam al-Mansouri of the UAE Air Force. Tell her Muslim women can't drive a car.


UAE's 1st female fighter pilot carried out strikes on ISIS - CBS News

Why do they get attacked for going to school?

Actually women like men are obligated under Islam to obtain as much education as possible

Does Islam Prohibit Educating Women? | Discover The Truth

Those that attack women for going to school are guilty of a very serious sin and are anti-Islamic

Why does "boko haram" mean "western education is evil"?


Actually it is a local Hausu language phrase meaning "Books are Forbidden" but it is translated as meaning "Western education is Evil" The actual name of the group is Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'awati wal-Jihad, which in Arabic means "People of the Sunnah" They are a very evil and anti-Islamic group out to destroy all religion. They are very similar to ISIS and probably even more dangerous.

Why do women have to cover up completely and walk around dressed as a tent?

that is the traditional clothing for the desert people of Arabia and predates Islam on the Arabian peninsula. It is not required in Islam and outside of Arabs it is not done.

Why does Islam allow men to marry multiple women and it is even practiced in many arabic countries?

The Qur'an is the only religious scripture that limits the number of wives a many may have. Polygamy is not prohibited in Christian or Jewish scripture and the number of wives is unlimited. It is secular laws that brought it to an end in Western Nations. but there are still Christians that practice polygamy in nations where it has not been made illegal.

The Qur'an permits a man to have up to 4 wives if he can meet very strict conditions. Very few men can meet the required conditions. The purpose of polygamy in Islam is to provide protection for widows, divorcees etc that have not been able to find a husband.
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Old 11-20-2015, 08:32 AM
 
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The Qur'an permits a man to have up to 4 wives if he can meet very strict conditions. Very few men can meet the required conditions. The purpose of polygamy in Islam is to provide protection for widows, divorcees etc that have not been able to find a husband.
Didn't Muhammed have over a dozen wives? How did he get away with that? And didn't he have slaves that he had sex with? Why did he marry little Aisha if she was already engaged to someone else?
 
Old 11-20-2015, 08:34 AM
 
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Didn't Muhammed have over a dozen wives? How did he get away with that? And didn't he have slaves that he had sex with? Why did he marry little Aisha if she was already engaged to someone else?
Wasn't Aisha only 8 or 9? Man, that mohammed dude's got nothing on Jared Fogle....
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