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Old 12-19-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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I am surprise no Muslims has complained about Moore's claim All [we] are Muslims.
It is a very serious sin to claim one or any one is a Muslim if that person has not fulfill the necessary conditions to be a Muslim.
Muslims has an arrogance sense they belong to a very elite class and non-Muslims are a class that is worst than animals.
Therefore Muslims [the true ones] would not want any one to claim they are Muslims to dilute their dignity as a Muslim.


There is a discussion in this thread on "Who Is A Muslim"
Who is a Muslim??
There are special conditions to be satisfied to qualify one self as a Muslim.


As a non-theist I would be offended to be called a Muslim and be associated with Islam which I am so sure is inherently evil besides its basic good.
No matter how unIslamic we may think a person is, if a person says he is Muslim, we accept him at his word. there is no way to prove who is or is not a Muslim. We can only say the actions of someone do not appear to be Islamic. but we can not say they are not Muslim if they say they are.

We welcome all people that say they are Muslim and see them as equal to all other Muslims. There is no hierarchy of status among Muslims.
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Not-a-Theist
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No matter how unIslamic we may think a person is, if a person says he is Muslim, we accept him at his word. there is no way to prove who is or is not a Muslim. We can only say the actions of someone do not appear to be Islamic. but we can not say they are not Muslim if they say they are.

We welcome all people that say they are Muslim and see them as equal to all other Muslims. There is no hierarchy of status among Muslims.
What Michael Moore [Catholic] implied was ALL the 7 billion+ people on Earth are Muslims. How can that be?

Note this view from David Wood;

"But is the claim that all people are Muslims consistent with the Qur'an? Ironically, by insisting that we are all Muslim, Michael Moore has insulted both Allah and Muhammad."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O3aahmWSl4
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:30 PM
 
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Old 12-20-2015, 03:08 AM
 
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No matter how unIslamic we may think a person is, if a person says he is Muslim, we accept him at his word.

But other Muslims think in a very different way right? They will declare people as heretics?

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"Under president Zia-ul-Haq, another anti-Ahmadiyya amendment was made in the Constitution of Pakistan which restricted the freedom of religion for Ahmadis. According to this law, Ahmadis cannot call themselves Muslim or "pose as Muslims" which is punishable by three years in prison."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadi...iyya_Amendment
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Old 12-20-2015, 03:19 AM
 
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Obviously the statement is in reference to Trump's willingness to deport all Muslims..If we stand by and let that happen, who will be next? In essence, as MLK said An injustice to one, is an injustice to ALL..

I think he was just talking about a temporary restriction on letting in Muslims. That's quite different to deporting anyone.

No Muslim, or anyone else, has some automatic right to enter the United States yes?


Looking at Kuwait...



Entry ban

Nationals of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Bangladesh, Iraq, Ethiopia,[9][10] Syria and Yemen are barred from entering Kuwait due to "difficult security conditions" in those countries.[11]

Additionally entry and transit is refused to Israeli citizens.[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_p...wait#Entry_ban
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Old 12-20-2015, 03:46 AM
 
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Moore is very respectful man.
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Old 12-22-2015, 01:17 AM
 
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When is he going to move to Syria?
When America runs it.
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