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Old 04-19-2016, 10:24 PM
 
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By definition Sharia is one of the Madhabs.

So you would toss out the law that specifies that upon marriage the woman is the owner of the house and all that is within it.

You would toss out the laws that forbid a man from beating his wife or any other woman

You would toss out the laws that a man has to guarantee a woman he marries full financial support even if he divorces her. You would toss out the laws that forbid a Muslim to charge interest on any money he loans out. You would toss out the laws that require a man to provide his wife or daughter with the best education he can afford. You would toss out the laws that Forbid a man to force a woman to dress in any specific manner.

Isis,Iran, Saudi and the Aceh province of Indonesia have already tossed them out. do you want all Muslims to be more like Isis, Saudi, Iran and Aceh?
As far as immutable barbaric Sharia Laws are concern there is no loss when we totally abandon with whatever is seemingly good therein.
The "lust" for Sharia Law with blinded-ness to its barbaric elements is merely a psychological lust within some selfish Muslims and without consideration for its effectiveness and basic human dignity.

All the above positives you mentioned above can be applied via secular laws which are dynamic and flexible to adapt to inevitable changes in time.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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As far as immutable barbaric Sharia Laws are concern there is no loss when we totally abandon with whatever is seemingly good therein.
The "lust" for Sharia Law with blinded-ness to its barbaric elements is merely a psychological lust within some selfish Muslims and without consideration for its effectiveness and basic human dignity.

All the above positives you mentioned above can be applied via secular laws which are dynamic and flexible to adapt to inevitable changes in time.
Which is not much different from any of the 4 madhabs, with the exception of Hanbali which has no provision for leniency. The other 3 madhabs require leniency. I wish I could remember the source, but their is a common phrase I often heard quoted (If a Shariah Judge condemns more then one person to death, he has abused his powers as a Judge.)
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:04 PM
 
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From page 33 of an interesting synopsis of Sharia

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Islam undeniably provides for the death penalty as part
of its criminal justice system. Its scope, however, is
considerably more limited than certain Islamic states
would have the international community believe. Sharia
law creates stringent conditions for its use and includes
various opportunities to avoid or commute punishment
that in practice would make it almost impossible to carry
out an execution. This could, on the face of the matter,
equate to a moratorium on sentencing and executions,
leading to abolition in law without being in conflict with
Islam. Furthermore, Sharia law explicitly encourages
life over death through the overarching themes of
forgiveness, mercy and repentance as alternatives to
punishment, as well as through the undeniable protection
of life as one of the five ‘indispensables’ in Islam.
This publication has therefore aimed to demonstrate that
the death penalty is not compulsory under Sharia law,
and abolition would not be incompatible with Islam.
Although it is undisputable that the Quran explicitly
provides the death penalty as punishment for murder
(
qisas
), it not only provides, but actively encourages
forgiveness and restitution as an alternative. This
indicates that Sharia law could still be upheld even where
executions are not carried out.

http://www.penalreform.org/wp-conten...th-penalty.pdf
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