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Old 05-03-2016, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodrow LI View Post
One needs to look at the history of Bangladesh and try to understand what it is like to live in a Nation that was created by the UN rather than the desires of the people. The last remnant of British Colonialism to end. Ever since the Country has been plagued with unrest, major flooding, civil war etc
Again you are showing your ignorance here and that is due to biasness.

Why did the UN create a Bangladesh and how did Pakistan got independent from India?

That is because of the malignant elements of "us versus them" inherent and inculcated in the Quran.
If the Quran has not existed nor reached India, then India would still be one country at present with Pakistan and Bangladesh as States.

Islam promote "us versus them" and divisiveness to the extent that if Pakistan and Bangladesh were not separated, there would be massive bloodshed as influenced and inspired by verses in the Quran.

Originally Posted by Woodrow LI
This time line might help keep things in perspective:

Bangladesh profile - Timeline - BBC News

Bangladesh is basically a very tolerant nation of other religions. But there are many that want to see it destroyed and the criminal element does attempt to use Islam to promote the destruction of Bangladesh.

What we have are political issues hiding behind or misusing religion to get their demands met.
The point is this two elements, i.e.

2. 20% [conservatively] of ALL humans, including Muslims has active potential to be evil.
3. The Quran contain lots of evil laden elements.

combine to manifest a very malignant force within Islam [in part].

It is this malignant force that added a new clause to the Bangladesh Constitutions, i.e.

1977 - General Ziaur Rahman assumes the presidency. Islam is adopted in the constitution.
Bangladesh profile - Timeline - BBC News
[from your link].
This reinforce the pseudo superiority of Muslims [some] as stated in the Quran and give Muslims [some] the arrogance to push their ways and violence through. The unilateral and selfish inclusion of the above clause has created untold violence.
This is why there is a call to remove that clause which was forced upon the people by the dictators in 1977.

Note the latest;

Bangladeshi Islamists threaten violence if Supreme Court drops Islam as state religion
Dhaka (AsiaNews) – The Islamic fundamentalist group Hifazat-e-Islam Bangladesh has threatened retaliation and a general strike if the Supreme Court seriously considers dropping Islam as the state religion.
“Bangladesh is a country where 92 per cent of the people are Muslim. If anybody removes our religion from the constitution, we shall oppose them. If the government and the Supreme Court do it, they will offend our religious sentiment,” said the Hifazat-e-Islam Bangladesh Secretary Azizul Haque Islamabadi. Huge mass protest and people will follow with dire consequences.
BANGLADESH Bangladeshi Islamists threaten violence if Supreme Court drops Islam as state religion
The above threat of violence is supported by verses in the Quran where Allah sanctioned fighting and killing if Islam and Muslims are threatened.

In this case, the dominance of Islam was forced upon the people by dictators and now when a proper government decide to correct it morally, the Islamists issue threats because Allah permit it.

Bangladesh is not the only country where it had happened and is happening.
Where that malignant force exists [part], SOME Muslims who are evil prone will push their way through to soothe their psychology and to please God to ensure a passage to Paradise.
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Old 05-03-2016, 11:43 PM
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Here is one article that support my hypothesis and what is happening in Bangladesh and all over the world.

Islam Creates Monsters Says Psychologist | Guardian Liberty Voice

Islam Creates Monsters Says Psychologist

Danish psychologist Nicolai Sennels, an expert in working with Muslim youth criminal offenders, has written a new book entitled
Among Criminal Muslims. A Psychologist’s Experience from the Copenhagen Municipality,
and in an essay supporting the book, he claims that “Islam creates monsters.” A recent study out of Germany supports Sennels’ statement. It found that devout Muslims were more prone to violence than the non-Muslim participants in the study.

Sennels says Islam is different from other religions because the way it is taught brainwashes its youth with violent messages. Parents inflict violence on their children repeatedly, Sennels claims, and at the same time, deliver religious ideology. He says this behavior makes Muslim extremists far more violent than extremists of other religious faiths.

The brainwashing, as Sennels terms it, begins very early on in a child’s life, and religious messages are repeated vigorously along with a heavy dose of physical discipline. It is this combination of pain and reinforcement, Sennels claims, that creates Islamic “monsters” who then feel justified in torturing and killing innocent people.

Sennels points out that parents want to indoctrinate their children into the religion as early as possible so that the kids will remain Muslim instead of looking to another faith—under Sharia law, turning against Islam is a crime punishable by death.

Sennels says that in Muslim culture, the idea of “constructive criticism” doesn’t exist, and any criticism of Muslim identity will result in extreme anger and quite possibly, physical violence. The Quran itself, Sennels claims, does not allow for the idea of tolerance, and calls for Muslims to separate from non-Muslims and view people of other faiths as inferior. This, in turn breeds hatred, Sennels claims. He explains:

The cultural and psychological cocktail of anger, low self-esteem, victim mentality, a willingness to be blindly guided by outer authorities, and an aggressive and discriminatory view toward non-Muslims, forced upon Muslims through pain, intimidation and mind-numbing repetitions of the Quran, is the reason why Islam creates monsters.
To be fair as in my hypothesis, not all Muslims are evil prone and it is only the Quran in part [not the whole] that has evil laden elements that influenced and inspired SOME Muslims who are born naturally with evil tendencies to be monsters.
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Old 05-04-2016, 12:27 AM
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This article refer only to SOME Muslims, not all.

Another point from Nicolai Sennel

Nicolai, people know you mainly for your articles on the psychological differences between Muslims and Westerners (please see here and here). You have also contributed your professional insights in the case against the Guantanamo prisoner Omar Khadr. You wrote several articles, as well as a book on your conclusions. Could you give us a brief account of your findings?

Sennels: There are many differences between people brought up as Muslims and those who are brought up as Westerners. I identified four main differences that are important in order to understand the behavior of Muslims. They concern
  1. anger,
  2. self-confidence,
  3. the so-called “locus of control” and
  4. identity.

Westerners are brought up to think of anger as a sign of weakness, powerlessness and lack of self-control. “Big dogs don’t have to bark,” as we say in Denmark. In Muslim culture, anger is seen as a sign of strength. To Muslims, being aggressive is in itself an argument and a way of gaining respect. But we should not be impressed when we see pictures of bearded men hopping up and down, shouting like animals and shooting in the air. We should take it for what it is: the local madhouse passing by.

In Western culture, self-confidence is connected with the ability to meet criticism calmly and to respond rationally. We are raised to see people who easily get angry when criticized, as insecure and immature. In Muslim culture it is the opposite; it is honorable to respond aggressively and to engage in a physical fight in order to scare or force critics to withdraw, even if this results in a prison sentence or even death. They see non-aggressive responses to such threats and violence as a sign of a vulnerability that is to be exploited. They do not interpret a peaceful response as an invitation to enter into a dialogue, diplomacy, intellectual debate, compromise or peaceful coexistence.

Locus of control” is a term used in psychology, and relates to the way in which people feel that their lives are controlled.
In Western culture, we are brought up to have an “inner locus of control,” meaning that we see our own inner emotions, reactions, decisions and views as the main deciding factor in our lives. There may be outer circumstances that influence our situation, but in the end, it is our own perception of a situation and the way we handle it that decides our future and our state of mind. The “inner locus of control” leads to increased self-responsibility and motivates people to become able to solve their own problems.

Muslims are brought up to have an “outer locus of control.” Their constant use of the term inshallah (“Allah willing”) when talking about the future, as well as the fact that most aspects of their lives are decided by outer traditions and authorities, leaves very little space for individual freedom. Independent initiatives are often severely punished. This shapes their way of thinking, and means that when things go wrong, it is always the fault of others or the situation.

Unfortunately, many Westerners go overboard with their self-responsibility and start to take responsibility for others’ behavior as well. The mix of many Westerners being overly forgiving, their flexible attitude, and Muslim self-pity and blame is the psychological crowbar that has opened the West to Islamization. Our overly protective welfare system shields immigrants from noticing the consequences of their own misbehavior and thereby learning from their mistakes and motivating them to improve.

Finally, identity plays a big role when it comes to psychological differences between Muslims and Westerners. Westerners are taught to be open and tolerant toward other cultures, races, religions, etc. This makes us less critical, impairs our ability to discriminate, and makes our societies open to the influence of other cultural trends and values that may not always be constructive. Muslims, on the other hand, are taught again and again that they are superior, and that all others are so bad that Allah will throw them in hell when they die. While most Westerners find national and cultural pride embarrassing, Muslim culture’s self-glorification, massive use of inbreeding, the rule that only Muslims can marry Muslims and their all-pervading social control function as self-protecting mechanisms on the levels of culture and identity.

In general, Westerners are taught to be kind, self-assured, self-responsible and tolerant, while Muslims are taught to be aggressive, insecure, irresponsible and intolerant.
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Old 05-04-2016, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Continuum View Post

In general, Westerners are taught to be kind, self-assured, self-responsible and tolerant, while Muslims are taught to be aggressive, insecure, irresponsible and intolerant.
I've been noticing this for a long time. Westerners are usually taught not to judge others and particularly do not like to judge groups. If they must judge, they judge individuals. Muslims, as you have noted, have a 'them vs us' mentality and are against all non-Muslims. They think infidels are beneath them.

Further, Westerners rarely riot unless there is a very strong reason pushing them....they must feel a great injustice first. Muslims will riot at a drop of a hat and often attack the very people who try to help them.

It would be next to impossible for a Westerner to be rude to a smiling Muslim. Look at the open arms that welcomed Muslims in to other countries. Sadly, the repayment was most terrible.

One only need to look at reality.
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