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Old 06-03-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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sweet water and salty water are joined but they do not mix because Allah put a barrier between them and none of them can transgress.
This makes me laugh because for 10 years I lived right by water that was mixed. It is called BRACKISH water and exists all over the world.

Brackish water region

You need to take some basic science classes.
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Old 06-06-2016, 09:04 AM
 
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Scientists have recently discovered that there are internal waves in the sea
But the Holy Quran talked about it more than 1400 years ago


And (as for) those who disbelieve, their deeds are like the mirage in a desert, which the thirsty man deems to be water;
until when he comes to it he finds it to be naught, and there he finds Allah,
so He pays back to him his reckoning in full; and Allah is quick in reckoning;
Or like utter darkness in the deep sea:
there covers it a wave above which is another wave, above which is a cloud, (layers of) utter darkness one above another;
when he holds out his hand, he is almost unable to see it;
and to whomsoever Allah does not give light, he has no light.
The Holy Quran 24.39:40



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVRGjnrabCM
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Old 06-06-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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This makes me laugh because for 10 years I lived right by water that was mixed. It is called BRACKISH water and exists all over the world.

Brackish water region

You need to take some basic science classes.

I believe thie is the phenomna the Qur'an is speaking of

Scientists in Australia have reported the discovery of huge freshwater reserves preserved in aquifers under the world's oceans. The water has remained shielded from seawater thanks to the accumulation of a protective layer of sediment and clay. And it’s not a local phenomenon. Such reserves are to be found under continental shelves off Australia, China, North America and South Africa.
Huge reserves of freshwater lie beneath the ocean floor

This undersea river has been discovered in Mexico, under the sea of Mexico. It’s been given name of ‘Cenote Angelita’ but is more famously known as river in the sea. According to Anatoly Beloshchin and his group of divers who were first ones to discover this phenomenon, this river under water is a complete river like any conventional one. It flows as much as 115 feet deep at some places, with flow of both fresh water and salty water at varying depths.
Scientists discovered rivers under the sea

Remarkable Rivers With Trees, Leaves And Waterfalls Hidden Under The Seal

This underwater river is a complete river like any conventional one. It flows as much as 115 feet deep at some places, with flow of both fresh water and salty water at varying depths.

Scientists have suspected that undersea rivers can form, after sonar scans of the sea bed have revealed meandering channels in many of the world’s oceans.

Ever since news of such rivers under sea were public, scientists all over the world have been looking for more such examples. Many have been found and even more will probably be discovered in the near future.

Read more: Remarkable Rivers With Trees, Leaves And Waterfalls Hidden Under The Sea! | MessageToEagle.com

Mysterious Underwater River

Anatoly Beloshchin is a photographer with a passion for diving. He traveled to the Yucatan in Mexico for a dive photo shoot. What he discovered was unbelievable!

From land, Angelita looks like any an ordinary swimming hole. It’s not until you dive almost 100 feet that the underwater river becomes exposed.
he different density levels in the two waters causes them to layer. The result is a breathtaking convergence of two habitats.

Were it not for a diver in the photos, you would never realize the river is underwater. Rather, it looks like a nighttime photo shoot of a beautiful river.

The point where the two waters meet and causes a milky sort of effect is called halocline.

How Can a River be Underwater?
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:32 PM
 
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until the nineteenth century it used to
belief that the atom is the smallest thing and that there is nothing smaller than its size and its weight, then
the Electrons, and protons, and neutrons were discovered


Those who disbelieve say: The Hour will never come unto us.
Say: Nay, by my Lord, but it is coming unto you surely.
(He is) the Knower of the Unseen.
Not an atom's weight, or less than that or greater, escapeth Him in the heavens or in the earth, but it is in a clear Record, The Holy Quran 34:3


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Old 06-10-2016, 01:51 AM
 
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until the nineteenth century it used to
belief that the atom is the smallest thing and that there is nothing smaller than its size and its weight, then
the Electrons, and protons, and neutrons were discovered

Those who disbelieve say: The Hour will never come unto us.
Say: Nay, by my Lord, but it is coming unto you surely.
(He is) the Knower of the Unseen.
Not an atom's weight, or less than that or greater, escapeth Him in the heavens or in the earth, but it is in a clear Record, The Holy Quran 34:3


I believe all these claims of "scientific" knowledge in the Quran is definitely due to the very low self-esteem of those who make this and acknowledge such claims.

The phrase mithqala tharratin [dharratin ذَرَّةٍ ذ ر ر ] which is more appropriate in reference to ants or small creatures to denote some thing very minute and insignificant.

Note this counter to the above claim;
Does the Qur'an speak about Atoms?



Note for more that 1000 of years before Muhammad's 623AD, the Hindus and Buddhists has deliberated on the concepts of the atoms and beyond but they do make any proud claims these are meant to be scientific.

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Buddhist atomism is a school of atomistic Buddhist philosophy that flourished on the Indian subcontinent during two major periods[citation needed]. During the first phase, which began to develop prior to the 4th century BCE, Buddhist atomism had a very qualitative, Aristotelian-style atomic theory. This form of atomism identifies four kinds of atoms, corresponding to the standard elements. Each of these elements has a specific property, such as solidity or motion, and performs a specific function in mixtures, such as providing support or causing growth. Like the Hindus and Jains, the Buddhists were able to integrate a theory of atomism with their logical presuppositions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_atomism
In fact the Buddhists went further into the fields of Quantum Mechanics;

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... The Buddhists denied the existence of substantial matter altogether. Movement consists for them of moments, it is a staccato movement, momentary flashes of a stream of energy... "Everything is evanescent," ... says the Buddhist, because there is no stuff ... Both systems [Sānkhya and later Indian Buddhism] share in common a tendency to push the analysis of Existence up to its minutest, last elements which are imagined as absolute qualities, or things possessing only one unique quality.
The above in depth analysis of matter by the Hindus, Buddhists and others were grounded on a spiritual quest.
The Hindus and Buddhists are well aware it would be embarrassment to claim for scientific knowledge regarding the above.

There are many other spiritual knowledge of the Eastern religionists raised 1000s of years ago that could correlate with modern scientific knowledge, but they would never claim they knew such scientific knowledge earlier than the Scientist.

Niels Henrik David Bohr (Danish: [nels ˈb̥oɐ̯ˀ]; 7 October 1885 – 18 November 1962) was a Danish physicist who made foundational contributions to understanding atomic structure and quantum theory, for which he received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1922.

This is the Coat of Arms of Neils Bohr


Note the Tao Symbol of Taoism in the middle and central location.
Neils Bohr acknowledge his discovery was based on the complementarity concepts of the Tao in Taoism.
However we don't find Taoists bragging over this connection all over the internet like what many Muslims are doing for their meagre and false correlations of Quranic terms with Science.
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Old 06-11-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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“Moreover, He Comprehended in His design the sky,
and it had been (as) smoke:
He said to it and to the earth:
‘Come ye together,
willingly or unwillingly.’
They said: ‘We do come (together),
in willing obedience.’” The Holy Quran 41:11
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Old 06-11-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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“Moreover, He Comprehended in His design the sky,
and it had been (as) smoke:
He said to it and to the earth:
‘Come ye together,
willingly or unwillingly.’
They said: ‘We do come (together),
in willing obedience.’” The Holy Quran 41:11
Really? What is the composition of smoke... and what is the composition of this gaseous matter?
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Old 06-11-2016, 11:24 PM
 
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Those miracles [scientific] are all 'gas' and 'smoke.'
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Old 06-13-2016, 09:46 AM
 
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The whole universe was initially one big mass
Then there was a ‘Big Bang’

“Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together , then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
The Holy Quran 21:30



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Old 06-13-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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The whole universe was initially one big mass
Then there was a ‘Big Bang’

“Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together , then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?
The Holy Quran 21:30



BTW, you never answered my questions:
What is the composition of smoke... and what is the composition of this gaseous matter?

The Quran doesn't state "correctly" how life emerged from water, we are made up of CELLS or that we are just partly water. Why not? Why the vague and wrong generalization?

And what about jinn? What are they made of? Are they living, or just objects like stones?
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