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Old 05-26-2016, 11:52 PM
 
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It is does not go well when Allah is given the attribute of l-mākirīna الْمَاكِرِينَ م ك ر as in verse 3:54 & 8:30 mentioned by mahasn sawresho.
3:54
وَمَكَرُوا وَمَكَرَ اللَّهُ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ
Wa Makarū Wa Makara Allāhu Wa Allāhu Khayru Al-Mākirīna
And they schemed and God schemed, but God is the best schemer.

8:30
وَإِذْ يَمْكُرُ بِكَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لِيُثْبِتُوكَ أَوْ يَقْتُلُوكَ أَوْ يُخْرِجُوكَ وَيَمْكُرُونَ وَيَمْكُرُ اللَّهُ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ
Wa 'Idh Yamkuru Bika Al-Ladhīna Kafarū Liyuthbitūka 'Aw Yaqtulūka 'Aw Yukhrijūka Wa Yamkurūna Wa Yamkuru Allāhu Wa Allāhu Khayru Al-Mākirīna
And the rejecters plot against you to arrest you, or to kill you, or to expel you. And they plot, and God plots, and God is the best of plotters.
The term 'makara' is used in a very negative [evil] sense when directed at non-Muslims, e.g.
14:46
وَقَدْ مَكَرُوا مَكْرَهُمْ وَعِنْدَ اللَّهِ مَكْرُهُمْ وَإِنْ كَانَ مَكْرُهُمْ لِتَزُولَ مِنْهُ الْجِبَالُ
Wa Qad Makarū Makrahum Wa `Inda Allāhi Makruhum Wa 'In Kāna Makruhum Litazūla Minhu Al-Jibālu
And they schemed their scheming, and their scheming is known to God; and their scheming was enough to make the mountains cease to exist.
Therefore is it the same when Allah is attributed with such a negative [evil] trait, i.e. Al-Mākirīna.

Generally a God of any matured and wise religion should never be attributed with any negative [evil] trait which can influence and inspire SOME evil prone believers to follow and adopt such a negative [evil] impulses. Unfortunately in reality this had happened and will continue to do so within a certain religion.
These verses of the Koran
We offer as they are
we Read and understand and deduce
Can we call this name and this trait to God

 
Old 05-27-2016, 12:02 AM
 
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Old 05-27-2016, 12:06 AM
 
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A source of harmful name in the most beautiful names

The codification of this name and this trait two verses from the Koran and two of Suh and cliques
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Azhar must replaces this name from the Koran
Explanation of Sunan Tirmidhi when explaining the modern names of Allah: LDL any detriment whom He will of His creation, which is the creator of all things goodness and evil, and the usefulness and Dharha, and this teaches that God hurts whom He will of His creation, as indicated by the words of God: If God touches you affliction, none can remove it but he even touches you fine is over all things [AL-Annam: 17], and the verse: Say: have you thought about what you call without God that God affliction wanted me are they will harm detectors or wanted me mercy are they Mmskat mercy [-Alzheimer 38].
 
Old 05-27-2016, 12:10 AM
 
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This is a question off topic but is a response to what you write
 
Old 05-27-2016, 05:11 AM
 
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In the Bible, a name or names are specifically given.
typically the Hebrew Biblical names are titles or attributes. most of the time we do not even know the perons actual name as they have been anglicized.

There never were any Jews at the time of Jesus named, Peter, Paul, Matthew, John, Timothy, Luke or even Jesus

Jesus most likely was called Yeshua a very common title It can also be written as Joshua which is also a Greek Agnlicized version of Yeshua. It Means To Rescue" or ""to Deliver'" It was a very common title for Jewish priests, but in more modern time it has been changed to mean "He Saves' to conform with Matthew 1:21. Basically it is a title and not a name. the same with Peter, which was from the Latin Petra mean stone, more specifically the foundation stone it was a title given to Cephas who in Latin was called Simon (not Simeon) Petra was a title designating him as the foundation of Christianity. More specifically the Church of Rome. the Bible is loaded with titles and has very few if any actual names.
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Old 05-27-2016, 11:03 PM
 
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typically the Hebrew Biblical names are titles or attributes. most of the time we do not even know the perons actual name as they have been anglicized.

There never were any Jews at the time of Jesus named, Peter, Paul, Matthew, John, Timothy, Luke or even Jesus

Jesus most likely was called Yeshua a very common title It can also be written as Joshua which is also a Greek Agnlicized version of Yeshua. It Means To Rescue" or ""to Deliver'" It was a very common title for Jewish priests, but in more modern time it has been changed to mean "He Saves' to conform with Matthew 1:21. Basically it is a title and not a name. the same with Peter, which was from the Latin Petra mean stone, more specifically the foundation stone it was a title given to Cephas who in Latin was called Simon (not Simeon) Petra was a title designating him as the foundation of Christianity. More specifically the Church of Rome. the Bible is loaded with titles and has very few if any actual names.
All this off-topic
ا Open the theme for the names of God in the Torah
To illustrate that the source of the name Peter) keepa
To illustrate that the source of the name Peter) rock
And either Aichoa This is a Hebrew name and Assyrian and Chaldean and Laramie because these ancient languages prevailed days of Christ and its roots as I think Nnevs
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