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Old 07-19-2016, 08:29 AM
 
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One.

Can you count?

Now keep talking to yourself.
[SIZE=6] قَالُوا رَبَّنَا أَمَتَّنَا اثْنَتَيْنِ وَأَحْيَيْتَنَا اثْنَتَيْنِ فَاعْتَرَفْنَا بِذُنُوبِنَا فَهَلْ إِلَى خُرُوجٍ مِنْ سَبِيلٍ (11)
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They will say, "Our Lord, You made us lifeless twice and gave us life twice, and we have confessed our sins. So is there to an exit any way?"

This is the number
Two die
Two life
Did you explain to us life and death in this new way
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Old 07-20-2016, 12:33 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Khalif
One.

Can you count?

Now keep talking to yourself.
oh- Khalif
where are you

How many times have we die

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Old 07-20-2016, 01:48 AM
 
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[SIZE=6] قَالُوا رَبَّنَا أَمَتَّنَا اثْنَتَيْنِ وَأَحْيَيْتَنَا اثْنَتَيْنِ فَاعْتَرَفْنَا بِذُنُوبِنَا فَهَلْ إِلَى خُرُوجٍ مِنْ سَبِيلٍ (11)
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They will say, "Our Lord, You made us lifeless twice and gave us life twice, and we have confessed our sins. So is there to an exit any way?"

This is the number
Two die
Two life
Did you explain to us life and death in this new way
When Allah sent this verse, He knew that the believers will understand that they had never been given life before their initial lifeless form but the unbelievers will never even try to understand it as they shut their brains to it. In other words, they will not understand that they had not died if they had never lived before this life.

Therefore, you had lifeless form once, initial, and will have lifeless form again after the only death before the second life.

How many deaths? Just One; AFTER life AFTER initial lifeless form BEFORE any previous death. That is two lives and only one death. There will not be another death after the first death for the believers. For the unbelievers, the same but once in hell, neither living nor dying.

If you are still so thick not to understand it all, tell me, did you have a life before this present life? If not then you hadn't died before this life; you were only in lifeless form before the Ruh made you into living being for the first time.

Has the penny dropped yet?

This is the beauty of a book from all-knowing Allah. It makes the believers understand it and it shuts the minds of those who do not believe a simple thing like that.
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:35 AM
 
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When Allah sent this verse, He knew that the believers will understand that they had never been given life before their initial lifeless form but the unbelievers will never even try to understand it as they shut their brains to it. In other words, they will not understand that they had not died if they had never lived before this life
. How can you disbelieve in Allah when you were( lifeless )and He (brought you to life); then He will (cause you to die), then (He will bring you) [back] to life, and then to Him you will be( returned. )
)
Speech is a way of knowledge
When you say that ( lifeless )and He (brought you to life

(cause you to die), then (He will bring you) [back] to life

How to understand this speech
To be a repeat of death and life
In the end, he says you shall return to him that no process is in rotation
It gives life and takes life
He was the reincarnation of souls
It is from the teachings of Zoroastrianism
In other verse confirm this
But he specified in two
This is the operative verses

Man before his birth is not dead
Is a new spirit is a new creature
But verse indicate that re-manufacturing process
Through repetition between life and death process
In the second verse repetition was only two

Therefore, you had lifeless form once, initial, and will have lifeless form again after the only death before the second life.
You can write verse
Your hand and you notice repetition
Just like the re-manufacturing operations
Do you believe this
My friend
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Old 07-20-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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When Allah sent this verse, He knew that the believers will understand that they had never been given life before their initial lifeless form but the unbelievers will never even try to understand it as they shut their brains to it. In other words, they will not understand that they had not died if they had never lived before this life.

Therefore, you had lifeless form once, initial, and will have lifeless form again after the only death before the second life.

How many deaths? Just One; AFTER life AFTER initial lifeless form BEFORE any previous death. That is two lives and only one death. There will not be another death after the first death for the believers. For the unbelievers, the same but once in hell, neither living nor dying.

If you are still so thick not to understand it all, tell me, did you have a life before this present life? If not then you hadn't died before this life; you were only in lifeless form before the Ruh made you into living being for the first time.

Has the penny dropped yet?

This is the beauty of a book from all-knowing Allah. It makes the believers understand it and it shuts the minds of those who do not believe a simple thing like that.
Huh? Before we were conceived we did not exist. There was no 'initial lifeless form'.To be more exact, pregnancy begins when a fertilized egg implants in the uterus. If the egg meets a sperm, they combine to form one cell. That cell is alive. Not a human yet, but alive. That is when the POTENTIAL human starts to form...from that one cell. Before that happens, there is no previous life. Use common sense.

After you die it is like before you were born. You do not exist any longer in terms of consciousness. Your body disintegrates or is mummified, your life is GONE.

What you are doing is trying to make some words of a maniac from hundreds of years ago fit your hopes that there is life after death. There isn;t. When you die, that's it.

The cycle of life and death is well documented by science. There are tons of supernatural claims about afterlives and reincarnation and rebirth and redeath...Muhammed came up with nothing new. Just more of the same old garbage.

Take Biology 101.

https://www.reference.com/science/hu...28d4f916244b27

No wonder Muslims can't win scientific Nobel Prizes if they believe crap in the quran. Your hierarchy of knowledge is based on nonsense.
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Old 07-20-2016, 03:38 PM
 
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Huh? Before we were conceived we did not exist. There was no 'initial lifeless form'.

After you die it is like before you were born.
Therefore, after you die it is like before you were born; in lifeless form.

[17.49-52] And they say: What! When we shall have become bones and decayed particles, shall we then certainly be raised up, being a new creation? Say: Become stones or iron, or something else which are too hard (to receive life) in your minds! But they will say: Who will return us? Say: Who created you at first. Still they will shake their heads at you and say: When will it be? Say: Maybe it has drawn nigh. On the day when He will call you forth, then shall you obey Him, giving Him praise, and you will think that you tarried but a little (while).

[75.37-40] Was he not (once) a drop of semen, then he was a clot of blood, so He created then made complete. Then He made of him two kinds, the male and the female. Isnít He able to give life to the dead?

[75.3-4] Does human think that We shall not assemble his/her bones? Yea! We are able to make complete his/her very fingertips.
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:07 PM
 
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Huh? Before we were conceived we did not exist. There was no 'initial lifeless form'.To be more exact, pregnancy begins when a fertilized egg implants in the uterus. If the egg meets a sperm, they combine to form one cell. That cell is alive. Not a human yet, but alive. That is when the POTENTIAL human starts to form...from that one cell. Before that happens, there is no previous life. Use common sense.

After you die it is like before you were born. You do not exist any longer in terms of consciousness. Your body disintegrates or is mummified, your life is GONE.

What you are doing is trying to make some words of a maniac from hundreds of years ago fit your hopes that there is life after death. There isn;t. When you die, that's it.

The cycle of life and death is well documented by science. There are tons of supernatural claims about afterlives and reincarnation and rebirth and redeath...Muhammed came up with nothing new. Just more of the same old garbage.

Take Biology 101.

https://www.reference.com/science/hu...28d4f916244b27

No wonder Muslims can't win scientific Nobel Prizes if they believe crap in the quran. Your hierarchy of knowledge is based on nonsense.
We know that life and death
It happens only once
Prenatal not the life of me
After I was born, death is an inevitable

But the verses that speak provided
Repeating the process of life and death
It is one of the biggest contradictions Koran
The source is the reincarnation of life
Any transmission of the soul of the dead to a new born baby
In this method, it can be explained only verse

Now that the Muslims do not have access to scientific awards
This is caused by the Koran
He will keep and later
It proved that the Koran is also contrary to science
The evidence hyperbolic
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:17 PM
 
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Therefore, after you die it is like before you were born; in lifeless form.

[17.49-52] And they say: What! When we shall have become bones and decayed particles, shall we then certainly be raised up, being a new creation? Say: Become stones or iron, or something else which are too hard (to receive life) in your minds! But they will say: Who will return us? Say: Who created you at first. Still they will shake their heads at you and say: When will it be? Say: Maybe it has drawn nigh. On the day when He will call you forth, then shall you obey Him, giving Him praise, and you will think that you tarried but a little (while).

[75.37-40] Was he not (once) a drop of semen, then he was a clot of blood, so He created then made complete. Then He made of him two kinds, the male and the female. Isnít He able to give life to the dead?

[75.3-4] Does human think that We shall not assemble his/her bones? Yea! We are able to make complete his/her very fingertips.
These verses speak about the resurrection in the flesh
It is the usual case
They contradict those verses
Here the bodies back at Judgment Day
And after the marriage in the nymphs
Because he can not marry without the nymphs that there will be bodies and genitals
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Old 07-20-2016, 07:43 PM
 
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Therefore, after you die it is like before you were born; in lifeless form.

[17.49-52] And they say: What! When we shall have become bones and decayed particles, shall we then certainly be raised up, being a new creation? Say: Become stones or iron, or something else which are too hard (to receive life) in your minds! But they will say: Who will return us? Say: Who created you at first. Still they will shake their heads at you and say: When will it be? Say: Maybe it has drawn nigh. On the day when He will call you forth, then shall you obey Him, giving Him praise, and you will think that you tarried but a little (while).

[75.37-40] Was he not (once) a drop of semen, then he was a clot of blood, so He created then made complete. Then He made of him two kinds, the male and the female. Isnít He able to give life to the dead?

[75.3-4] Does human think that We shall not assemble his/her bones? Yea! We are able to make complete his/her very fingertips.
COOL! Before I was born I was a corpse! Maybe a zombie?

And a clot of blood? That's nonsense!

It is he who has created man from water
-- Sura 25:54
And God has created every living creature from water.
-- Sura 24:45

We created man from sounding clay,
from mud moulded into shape.
-- Sura 15:26

Amongst his signs is this,
that he created you from dust.
-- Sura 30:20

Blood clot? Water? Clay? Dust? or........

God createth what He willeth:
When he hath decreed a plan,
He but saith to it, "Be," and it is!
-- Sura 3:47

The rascal allah just says the word "be" and it is, there is no making a mess with water, clay, blood clots or dust, just a clean "there it is". Right?

Allah seems very confused. Maybe because allah is really muhammed......
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Old 07-20-2016, 07:48 PM
 
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Therefore, after you die it is like before you were born; in lifeless form.

[17.49-52] And they say: What! When we shall have become bones and decayed particles, shall we then certainly be raised up, being a new creation? Say: Become stones or iron, or something else which are too hard (to receive life) in your minds! But they will say: Who will return us? Say: Who created you at first. Still they will shake their heads at you and say: When will it be? Say: Maybe it has drawn nigh. On the day when He will call you forth, then shall you obey Him, giving Him praise, and you will think that you tarried but a little (while).

[75.37-40] Was he not (once) a drop of semen, then he was a clot of blood, so He created then made complete. Then He made of him two kinds, the male and the female. Isnít He able to give life to the dead?

[75.3-4] Does human think that We shall not assemble his/her bones? Yea! We are able to make complete his/her very fingertips.
Proof that cats do not like pre-born Muslims.


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