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Old 07-22-2016, 04:39 AM
 
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I care because you come to my country and demand special rights and demand Islam be taught in schools.
You are promoting ignorance about me. I have done no such thing. I have never been to YOUR country. So stop imagining that I come to YOUR country to demand anything.
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Old 07-22-2016, 04:41 AM
 
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I care because Muslims come here and demand welfare and set up terrorist training camps and plan terrorist attacks.
As for the welfare, there are far less Muslims demanding it in your country than are the number of non-Muslims doing that in YOUR country.

As for the terrorist attacks, YOUR country attacks their countries in the Middle East (I am not from the Middle East). That’s why they too care.
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Old 07-22-2016, 04:43 AM
 
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I care because I HATE to see children raped and women beaten.
I have raped no child and never beaten any woman. Why do you hate me and ALL Muslims?

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I care because I HATE to see mass slaughter. I care because I HATE evil.
The only thing you care is spewing hate against ALL Muslims as if they are ALL slaughtering people and are evil. That is evil hate against ALL Muslims.
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Old 07-22-2016, 04:52 AM
 
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You can evade reality all you want, but I won't be joining you.
I don’t want you to join me. I don’t want hate spewing person to join me.
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All of us can see what Muslims are doing. Do you want to bet that the next terrorist attack will also be caused by muslims?
Betting is haram in Islam. I am not going to bet for that reason but I can tell you two things, (a) It is almost certain that the next attack by a country on a Muslim country will be from YOUR country. Whether it is called Desert Storm or Shock and Awe, it will be the beginning of more terrorism under another false pretence similar to that of getting rid of WMDs (an already proved Bush and Blair lie). (b) The next terrorist attack on innocent people won't be from this Muslim. But you will still carry on hating me simply because I am a Muslim.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:44 AM
 
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You are promoting ignorance about me. I have done no such thing. I have never been to YOUR country. So stop imagining that I come to YOUR country to demand anything.
I obviously talking about the collective 'you'. Muslims.

You know darned well what is happening in Europe and what is starting to happen in the USA. Terrorism and more....riots, mass rapes, rape of children, Muslims on welfare, child brides, honor killings, no go zones....demands for shariah law....financial support of terrorism....hiding terrorists.....mosques teaching hate against non-Muslims......demands for welfare and handouts.....YOU KNOW IT!

And the hate against non-Muslims comes straight from the quran and hadiths.

Quran 2:65 And ye know of those of you who broke the Sabbath, how We said unto them: Be ye apes, despised and hated!

Quran 7:166 Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them: Be (as) apes, despised and hated.

Quran 28:42 in this world We made a curse to follow them and on the Day of Judgment they will be among the loathed (and despised).

Qur’an 8:55 Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve.

Of course this is just a sample.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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As for the welfare, there are far less Muslims demanding it in your country than are the number of non-Muslims doing that in YOUR country.

As for the terrorist attacks, YOUR country attacks their countries in the Middle East (I am not from the Middle East). That’s why they too care.
You are right, but dishonest. There are FAR fewer Muslims living in the USA so there would have to be far fewer on welfare. But let's be honest:

"SUBCOMMITTEE CHART: MORE THAN 90% OF RECENT MIDDLE EASTERN REFUGEES ON FOOD STAMPS, ALMOST 70% ON CASH WELFARE"
SUBCOMMITTEE CHART: More Than 90% Of Recent Middle Eastern Refugees On Food Stamps, Almost 70% On Cash Welfare - News Releases - Senator Jeff Sessions

Compare that to the number of non-Muslims on welfare.

How many US Soldiers have lost their lives after coming to the aid of Muslim countries? Your Muslim leaders BEG for our help. We are sure not begging for terrorists to come kill us.

Following the September 11 attacks in the United States in 2001, NATO invaded Afghanistan. If 9-11 had not happened, you'd all be happily slaughtering each other. In fact, almost all slaughter after NATO invaded Afghanistan was Muslim on Muslim slaughter. Do you remember that several Afghan leaders were invited to Germany in December 2001 for the UN sponsored Bonn Agreement, which was to restore stability and governance in their country??

I would like to see all foreign aid to Muslim countries cut off:
"While America's standing in the Middle East couldn't get much lower, you wouldn't know it looking at the U.S. foreign aid budget. Of proposed U.S. assistance for 2012, almost two-thirds is earmarked for Muslim nations and one-third goes to Arab countries."
It's All Your Money: Foreign Aid to Muslim/Arab nations | Fox News

And I'd like to see Muslim immigration stopped and massive investigations of all Muslims and mosques here in the USA with deportment of all Muslims who are suspicious and closing of all mosques involved in support of terrorism. I'd like to see swift and objective retaliation for every Islamic terrorist act on western soil....and I'm fine with westerners leaving Muslim countries.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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I don’t want you to join me. I don’t want hate spewing person to join me.

Betting is haram in Islam. I am not going to bet for that reason but I can tell you two things, (a) It is almost certain that the next attack by a country on a Muslim country will be from YOUR country. Whether it is called Desert Storm or Shock and Awe, it will be the beginning of more terrorism under another false pretence similar to that of getting rid of WMDs (an already proved Bush and Blair lie). (b) The next terrorist attack on innocent people won't be from this Muslim. But you will still carry on hating me simply because I am a Muslim.
Yet your prophet/god spews hate relentlessly. I have never said anything remotely as hateful as this:

Quran 3:151 We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down [any] authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.

Quran 8:12 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

Quran 8:60 And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.

Quran 27:87 And on the day when the trumpet shall be blown, then those who are in the heavens and those who are in the earth shall be terrified except such as Allah please, and all shall come to him abased.

Quran 33:26 And those of the people of the Scripture who backed them (the disbelievers) Allah brought them down from their forts and cast terror into their hearts, (so that) a group (of them) you killed, and a group (of them) you made captives.

Quran 34:51 If thou couldst but see when they will quake with terror; but then there will be no escape (for them), and they will be seized from a position (quite) near.

Quran 59:13 Of a truth ye are stronger (than they) because of the terror in their hearts, (sent) by Allah. This is because they are men devoid of understanding.

Quran 8:50 And if you could see when the angels take away the souls of those who disbelieve (at death), they smite their faces and their backs, (saying): "Taste the punishment of the blazing Fire."

Quran 4:38 Cut off (from the wrist joint) the (right) hand of the thief, male or female, as a recompense for that which they committed, a punishment by way of example from Allah. And Allah is All-Powerful, All-Wise.

Quran 4:56 Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.

Quran 79:25 Then Allah took him (away) with the torture of the Hereafter and the First (life).

The Apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives.
Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433) (I think mass rape of women and girls after slaughtering their husbands, fathers and sons is torture, don't you??)

Quran 8:12 Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."

Quran (24:2) The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you.

Quran 22:19-22 "These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning."

Muslim (16:4131) - They were caught and brought to him (the Holy Prophet). He commanded about them, and (thus) their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died.

Ibn Ishaq 764 - After amassing a powerful army, Muhammad sent his forces to take the peaceful farming community of Khaybar by surprise. In the aftermath, he was dissatisfied with the amount of plunder and felt that the town’s treasurer, Kinana, might be holding out on him. He had the man brought to him:
When he [Muhammad] asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr bin al-Awwam, “Torture him until you extract what he has.” So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad bin Maslama and he struck off his head.”

The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives.
Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)

Allah seemed to like to watch mass rape.

"O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do coitus interruptus. A soul that which Allah has destined to exist will surely come into existence.” (Bukhari 34:432)

"We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter" (Sahih Muslim 3371)

Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)

Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64; see also Numbers 65 and 88)

I don't think 4th grade girls want 53 year old men to have sex with them. Would you agree?

There came a slave and pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man) (Sahih Muslim 3901).

The apostle gave Ali a girl called Rayta; and he gave Uthman a girl called Zaynab; and he gave Umar a girl whom Umar gave to his son Abdullah. (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 878) Human party favors!!

“Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty.” (Qur’an 33:50)

“Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah’s Apostle was on a journey and he had a black slave called Anjasha, and he was driving the camels (very fast, and there were women riding on those camels). Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Waihaka (May Allah be merciful to you), O Anjasha! Drive slowly (the camels) with the glass vessels (women)!'” (Bukhari 8.73.182) There is no mention of Muhammad’s freeing Anjasha.

BUKHARI Vol. 3-#765
Narrated Kuraib: the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas, that Maimuna bint Al-Harith told him that she manumitted a slave-girl without taking the permission of the Prophet. On the day when it was her turn to be with the Prophet, she said, "Do you know, O Allah's Apostle, that I have manumitted my slave-girl?" He said, "Have you really?" She replied in the affirmative. He said, "You would have got more reward if you had given her (i.e. the slave-girl) to one of your maternal uncles."

Quran 2:65 And ye know of those of you who broke the Sabbath, how We said unto them: Be ye apes, despised and hated!

Quran 7:166 Therefore when they revoltingly persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them: Be (as) apes, despised and hated.

Quran 28:42 in this world We made a curse to follow them and on the Day of Judgment they will be among the loathed (and despised).

Qur’an 8:55 Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve.

Of course this is just a sample.

I despise (a better word) men raping children, mass rapes, terrorism, rioting, slavery, torture and slaughter of non-believers, etc, etc. These are things Islam stands for and you defend.
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:19 AM
 
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I don’t want you to join me. I don’t want hate spewing person to join me.

Betting is haram in Islam. I am not going to bet for that reason but I can tell you two things, (a) It is almost certain that the next attack by a country on a Muslim country will be from YOUR country. Whether it is called Desert Storm or Shock and Awe, it will be the beginning of more terrorism under another false pretence similar to that of getting rid of WMDs (an already proved Bush and Blair lie). (b) The next terrorist attack on innocent people won't be from this Muslim. But you will still carry on hating me simply because I am a Muslim.
Our friend
We discuss Islam in texts written

This is an important subject
Do not hold hate to humans
But we have our clear position of Islam
It is that the texts do not lead to a better world
The texts are a combination of the teachings of hatred and fighting
And then you do not believe what we say
Read the you're on your own
Of your commitment to full neutrality
And you'll see the Federated States of fighting and hatred
Does not provide cover to these verses
And Lama Desert Storm
And other
I told you more than a response
Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are caused by those wars
Hyosh 28 countries to Saudi territory came
One of those lands and the approval of the Saudis launched to liberate Kuwait, and the invasion of Iraq
Read the neutrality, you will know the truth
Yes, it may be a good man
But this is not the attitude of the Islamic religion
Islamic religion makes the bad guys
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:08 AM
 
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I have raped no child and never beaten any woman. Why do you hate me and ALL Muslims?



The only thing you care is spewing hate against ALL Muslims as if they are ALL slaughtering people and are evil. That is evil hate against ALL Muslims.
I despise your ideology. The ideology you follow supports the rape of children and beating women. How can any good person follow such an ideology.

YOU are the one who says I hate all Muslims. That is YOUR words that you use as a hateful attack against me. I have been very clear that I 'hate' (I would say despise) the ideology of Islam....the rapes and slavery and terrorism and all the rest. YOU have cooked up a dishonest attack against me saying that I hate all Muslims. In fact, I despise what Muslims defend. The rape of children, the slavery, the terrorism, the desire to take over the world, the god that wants to horribly torture billions of disbelievers for eternity...all that is EVIL and should be despised by every moral person.

ALL Muslims, by definition, follow allah's evil ideology that supports such evil things. I do not understand how any good person can choose to follow such evil (they would not). Just like I do not see how any good person could choose to follow and idolize Charles Manson, or Hitler, or Stalin, or any of the evil monsters. They would not.

How many lives have been lost because of Islam? Many millions. I think human lives are so very precious and when I see Muslims, or any evil people, slaughtering others in the name of their ideology or insanity, it makes me sick.


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Old 07-22-2016, 02:02 PM
 
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I despise your ideology. The ideology you follow supports the rape of children and beating women. How can any good person follow such an ideology.
As explained, I do not rape children or beat women; never have. I do not do these things because the Deen I follow does not command me to rape children or beat women. That means I follow good Deen and, therefore, only good persons follow the same Deen.

Even this comment of yours is spewing hate against my Deen and rendering me a bad person just because I am a Muslim.

It's about time that you differentiated between an evil person and a good person on the basis of what they actually do rather than what they just call themselves. A person can be drinking alcohol, using drugs, visiting knocking shops, treating his wife unfairly, gambling, stealing, not praying at all, never goes to a mosque except to kill Muslims there or blows up a mosque with his suicide belt, drives trucks into a crowd killing many, goes into a school and shoots dead 143 Muslim children, has an Islamic sounding name, it does not mean that he was doing these things because of Islam. Most Muslims do not do any of these things. Do not just assume that ALL Muslims are like these terrorist.

Judging by your posts here, there is one thing in common between you and an evil terrorist who kills even peaceful Muslims, both hate peaceful Muslims. You because their Deen is Islam and the evil terrorist because they are not killing peaceful infidels.
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