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Old 06-27-2016, 01:18 AM
 
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The science recently figured them but it was mentioned 1400 years ago by the final Messenger of Allah






How many joints are there in the human body?
640 muscles. 206 bones. 360 joints. Ask a Question


The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
A human being has three hundred and sixty joints for each of which he must give alms.
The people asked him: Who is capable of doing this ?
He replied: It may be mucus in the mosque which you bury, and something which you remove from the road;
but if you do not find such, two rak'ahs (prayer) in the forenoon will be sufficient for you.










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Old 06-27-2016, 07:03 AM
 
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The science recently figured them but it was mentioned 1400 years ago by the final Messenger of Allah






How many joints are there in the human body?
640 muscles. 206 bones. 360 joints. Ask a Question


The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
A human being has three hundred and sixty joints for each of which he must give alms.
The people asked him: Who is capable of doing this ?
He replied: It may be mucus in the mosque which you bury, and something which you remove from the road;
but if you do not find such, two rak'ahs (prayer) in the forenoon will be sufficient for you.










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Old 06-27-2016, 02:04 PM
 
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Indeed. One of many interesting questions to ask is when that 360 joints business first mentioned.

Well, long before Muhammed came along.....

"A theory of “the body politic” had been developed as early as the third century B.C.E. in the Springs and Autumns of Mr. Lü (Lüshi Chunqiu):

Human beings have 360 joints, nine bodily openings, and five yin and six yang systems of function. In the flesh tightness is desirable; in the blood vessels free flow is desirable; in the sinews and bones solidity is desirable; in the operations of the heart and mind harmony is desirable; in the essential Qi regular motion is desirable. When [these desiderata] are realized, illness has nowhere to abide, and there is nothing from which pathology can develop. When illness lasts and pathology develops, it is because the essential Qi has become static. . . ."

https://www.amacad.org/content/publi...nt.aspx?d=1301

Muhammed was born approximately 570 CE.

Can anyone give another, even earlier example of a claim of 360 joints?
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:49 PM
 
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Oh no

There are what 300 bones in the body. The Quran is simply wrong about this. The fly's wing is also nonsense and so is the stream of fresh water cutting through salt. Sheer flow force might keep salt out for a while, but that would be known to all.

There is no case for science in the Quran.

Look, mates, you don't need to sell the Quran to believers - they believe already. But you are not going to sell it to Christians because they believe there is science in the Bible, and you won't sell it to us skeptics because we know there is science in neither.
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:55 PM
 
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Oh no

There are what 300 bones in the body. The Quran is simply wrong about this. The fly's wing is also nonsense and so is the stream of fresh water cutting through salt. Sheer flow force might keep salt out for a while, but that would be known to all.

There is no case for science in the Quran.

Look, mates, you don't need to sell the Quran to believers - they believe already. But you are not going to sell it to Christians because they believe there is science in the Bible, and you won't sell it to us skeptics because we know there is science in neither.

read again with attention , there is no word for bones here but we are talking about joints
"The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
A human being has three hundred and sixty joints for each of which he must give alms.
The people asked him: Who is capable of doing this ?
He replied: It may be mucus in the mosque which you bury, and something which you remove from the road;
but if you do not find such, two rak'ahs (prayer) in the forenoon will be sufficient for you."
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:55 PM
 
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I apologize
But the proof of the prophecy of this style
Bankruptcy means intellectual
Greeks scientists and Lafragnh, Assyrians and the Hebrews
The Romans
Waiting for the coming of Mohammed desert riding camels
And tell them yourselves in the 350 bones
This is the word of God must believe that I am a prophet
My beloved Muslims
Prophecy ethics
Prophecy teachings
Prophecy chastity
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:59 PM
 
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read again with attention , there is no word for bones here but we are talking about joints
"The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
A human being has three hundred and sixty joints for each of which he must give alms.
The people asked him: Who is capable of doing this ?
He replied: It may be mucus in the mosque which you bury, and something which you remove from the road;
but if you do not find such, two rak'ahs (prayer) in the forenoon will be sufficient for you."
Pharaohs well-known in the science of mummification
We will consider the prophets of the Pharaohs
Because they know the number of the body's joints and Edamh before embalming
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Old 06-27-2016, 06:00 PM
 
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read again with attention , there is no word for bones here but we are talking about joints
"The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said
A human being has three hundred and sixty joints for each of which he must give alms.
The people asked him: Who is capable of doing this ?
He replied: It may be mucus in the mosque which you bury, and something which you remove from the road;
but if you do not find such, two rak'ahs (prayer) in the forenoon will be sufficient for you."
Well, long before Muhammed came along.....

"A theory of “the body politic” had been developed as early as the third century B.C.E. in the Springs and Autumns of Mr. Lü (Lüshi Chunqiu):

Human beings have 360 joints, nine bodily openings, and five yin and six yang systems of function. In the flesh tightness is desirable; in the blood vessels free flow is desirable; in the sinews and bones solidity is desirable; in the operations of the heart and mind harmony is desirable; in the essential Qi regular motion is desirable. When [these desiderata] are realized, illness has nowhere to abide, and there is nothing from which pathology can develop. When illness lasts and pathology develops, it is because the essential Qi has become static. . . ."

https://www.amacad.org/content/publi...nt.aspx?d=1301

Muhammed was born approximately 570 CE.

Can you give another, even earlier example of a claim of 360 joints?
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Old 06-27-2016, 10:31 PM
 
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The science recently figured them but it was mentioned 1400 years ago by the final Messenger of Allah
There is no issue that it is written in the Sunnah there are 360 joints in the body. By the 7th century there were already autopsies and any normal person can count the number of joints in a physical body. This is a very simple thing to verify as counting number of bones, head, nose, dick, breasts, any body parts, etc.

Another point is the statement of 360 joints in the Sunnah could have been written long after the death of Muhammad when autopsy Science are more prevalent. Therefore the one who wrote this point in the Sunnah [Ahadith?] merely plagiarized the point from others.

Btw, the Quran stated Muhammad was merely a warner, conveyor of good tidings, reminderer, [a tape recorder or parrot] of the eternal message of Allah and nothing more than that.

The fact that you blindly claim the above is an insult to your own intelligence and very shameful.
This show those who insist it was Muhammad who discovered this scientific fact has very low self-esteem.

Last edited by Continuum; 06-27-2016 at 10:41 PM..
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Old 06-28-2016, 12:44 AM
 
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you are missing the main objective of all these threads about scientific facts in the Holy Quran or in the saying of The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him)

The main objective is to help those who do not believe in the creator or do not believe in his final messenger , to help them find the truth
by highlighting all these scientific facts that can not be declared by some one illiterate lived 1400 ago years in a desert area and his main experience are camels .

How could The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) say these scientific if he did not receive them from Allah
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