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Old 07-19-2016, 11:26 PM
 
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Because of Muhammad's altered states of consciousness experiences he was misled [by wife and others] to believe he was the prophesized messenger.
This was the fundamental false premise that led to all other false claims that results in untold range of evils unleashed upon mankind since 1,400 years ago and will be worse in the future with the possible extinction of the human species by SOME evil prone Muslims.

The fact is many of Muhammad's close relatives who knew him since a baby till 40 years of his adult life are familiar with Muhammad inside out, i.e. the good, the bad and ugly deeds and aspects of his life.
This is why there is no way for his uncles [and others, relatives, tribes] to believe Muhammad could be the chosen one from Allah.

His uncle Abu Wahab knew Muhammad all his life [when he was in the crib] was convinced [an ordinary relative would be] was fake. The point is, based on a false premise, Muhammad insulted the religions of his uncles, relative, friends and tribes. Since religion is SO existential sensitive a subject it is obvious those who feel their religion was insulted will be VERY offended. This is why Abu Wahab [whose impulse control was not so good] lashed out at Muhammad like what many Muslims are doing when they felt offended.

All the tit-for-tat that result in fighting and all sort of evil can be traced to that ultimate root cause [the first spark] which was the false premise which Muhammad was misled by his wife and others to believe [falsely] he was the prophesized messenger from his experience of those altered states of consciousness which actual frightened him.

If Muhammad had experienced those frightening altered states of consciousness in the present, his wife would have sent him to see a psychiatrist and get cured by some psychiatric treatment.

Note such experiences of altered states of consciousness are researched in depth by various fields of knowledge especially the psychiatric, psychology, etc. and the Religious and Spirituality community.
If one were to focus on those frightening altered states of consciousness that Muhammad experienced one would have a greater understanding of the roots of how Islam came about.

Here are some basics on altered states of consciousness;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altere..._consciousness



Note this which I post regularly on the claim of divinity due to brain disorders;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIiIsDIkDtg
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I expect most Muslims will run away from and deny the above facts and knowledge. But if they are more spiritually matured they should face and understand the above truths of human nature.
Thanks for your opinion
Muslims offer that phase of Muhammad's life as black and that Muhammad was fighting for his religion
While the reality is very different
Abu flame is the uncle of Muhammad
And daughters Mohamed was married Abu flame children
The divorce happened after that
So a family matter
Nothing to do with God

Abu flame slaughtered carcasses at the birth of Mohammed
And his sons married the daughters of Muhammad
So why not say
After that Muhammad failed to win the friendship of his uncle Abu Lahab
Through mixed lineage
Just as it happened from the marriage of Khadija Mohammed through
Muhammad capsized boil uncle
And calling him a verbal Keithley
Like the word Tibet
For this reason, the hostility of the parties unexpected case
And also if he wanted to kill the flame Abu Mohammed
He would do
But ethics Abu flame did not allow him to do so
This reflects our ethics prophecy also
Through the opposite direction in our outlook for the event
This Abu flame boys marriage of the daughters of Muhammad ratification
As for "paperless": it was the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him had her husband "bin Abi flame threshold."
The "Umm Kulthum" - which is smaller than the paper - lost her husband, the Prophet, peace be upon him of "Otaiba bin Abi flame."
Which came in the "walk" they divorced daughter of the Prophet peace be upon him before entering them, in order of the enemy of Allah, Abu Lahab, and that was after the revelation of Surat "obstructive".
- God's mercy - Ibn Abd al-Barr, "he said Musab and other people of proportions: The paper under bin Abi flame threshold, was her sister Umm Kulthum under bin Abi threshold flame, and when he came down: (Perish the hands of Abu Lahab) said to them, their father Abu Lahab and their mother bra firewood: difference daughter of Muhammad, said Abu flame: my head Rosakma haram if Tvarka daughter of Muhammad, Vvarqihama "ended.
"Assimilation to know Mates" (p. 594).
Moreover, "Othman bin Affan" married "paper" in Mecca and migrated with him to Abyssinia, and bore him a son and named him there, "Abdullah," Usman was nicknamed him.
As marched Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him to "Badr" in the first year of migration: his daughter was "paperless" sick of measles, stayed behind by Osman ordered the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, and then she died because of it in the same year.
"Umm Kulthum", then wife of the Prophet, peace be upon him Osman may Allah be pleased with him, and it was his marriage to it in the first spring of the year three, and built in Jumada II of the year, and did not give birth to him a son, and died nine years, and upon the Messenger of Allah bless him him.

 
Old 07-21-2016, 11:38 PM
 
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Did you know why Muhammad hated his uncle Abu Lahab
Girls married Mohammed Abu flame children
Mohammed was believed that this marriage would be the way to earn his uncle Abu Lahab to call
As it happened with his first wife, Khadija
Which submitted it to be a prophet and was attending angel Mohammed is among thighs Khadija
And Hoachtbar prophecy
But the divorce Abu flame sons of the daughters of Muhammad
The estrangement
So that God intervened and cursed Abu flame in any private
He cursed God
 
Old 07-23-2016, 12:56 AM
 
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[He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, (rain) and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is nothing similar to Him].

  1. [RIGHT][SIZE=5] الَّذِي جَعَلَ لَكُمُ الأَرْضَ فِرَاشاً وَالسَّمَاء بِنَاء وَأَنزَلَ مِنَ السَّمَاء (مَاء) فَأَخْرَجَ بِهِ مِنَ الثَّمَرَاتِ رِزْقًا لَّكُمْ فَلاَ تَجْعَلُواْ لِلَّهِ أَندَادًا وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ [/SIZE][/RIGHT]
  2. [SIZE=5]and sent down from the sky, (rain) [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=5] وَأَنزَلَ مِنَ السَّمَاء (مَاء)
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  3. This verse from Sura
    The translation is not correct
    Because the word in the Koran are
    Come down from the sky water
    In Alankaazah translator and sent down water from the sky
    Why is this misinformation big difference in meaning between the rain and the water
 
Old 07-23-2016, 01:01 AM
 
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I made a verse in Alankelsah translator in Arabic
Word in the Koran sent down water from the sky
While the translation is sent down the rain
This is misleading
A Glemya is known that the water does not come down from heaven
Which has come down is the rain
The rain is steam rising from the ground
So the Koran is wrong in this speech
The water does not come down from heaven
Rain is the one who comes down
It is understood the Arab knows the difference between the rain and the water
 
Old 07-23-2016, 01:07 AM
 
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[SIZE=6] وانزل من السماء الماء
[/SIZE]

[SIZE=6]sent down from the sky, (rain)
[/SIZE]

[SIZE=6]It is incredible to compare the two words
And know the truth
And misinformation in the English translation
Allah sends down water from the sky
Rain is water
But it does not come down from heaven
As a result of evaporation
[/SIZE]
 
Old 07-23-2016, 11:06 AM
 
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الَّذِي جَعَلَ لَكُمُ الْأَرْضَ فِرَاشًا وَالسَّمَاءَ بِنَاءً وَأَنزَلَ مِنَ السَّمَاءِ( مَاءً )فَأَخْرَجَ بِهِ مِنَ الثَّمَرَاتِ رِزْقًا لَّكُمْ ۖ فَلَا تَجْعَلُوا لِلَّهِ أَندَادًا وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ ( 22 ) Al-Baqarah ( The Cow ) - Ayaa 22
[He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, (rain )and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is nothing similar to Him]
you see the words
rain=it meaning مطر
but the words in Arabic is water
الماء = water
why they lie in translate
of Quran
and where the true
the water not coming from sky
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[SIZE=6][SIZE=6]The water is in the ground and did not come down from heaven
Is there springs of water coming down the skythe rain coming from sky


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Old 07-23-2016, 07:42 PM
 
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And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."al-bakra -30


This dialogue between God and the angels
God says that will create a successor
successor, caliph=خليفة
to the ground


The angels said
How to create the shed blood and ruin in the ground


The Answer allah
I know you know Mala
Ended dialogue


I want to ask this question
How did the angels know that Caliph shed blood and ruin in the ground ????


Khalifa God on earth must be like God
How the angels objected to the desire of God
They describe the new creature that spilled blood?????

These are mind questions to Koran
And Muslims
I'm looking at the Koran
If the new creature shed blood, a corrupt
Would he have been tampering with the Creator in His creation
And enjoy blood that Bloodshed
 
Old 07-25-2016, 01:11 AM
 
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And He taught Adam the names - all of them. Then He showed them to the angels and said, "Inform Me of the names of these, if you are truthful
surat-cow-al-bakra
This verse says that God taught Adam the names
And display the owners of those names boiling Angels
He asked them to know these
But angels apologized

The question is
Do you consider this logically in the challenge between God and the angels

Offer you the following example
I painted ten pictures
And asked you to know the owners of these Alsourasme these images
The answer is that you do not know.
This is the challenge between God and the angels in the character of Adam and names
==================================

Otherwise there is no meaning to this verse
Without logical answer to these questions
God accept the challenge
And he knows the names Adam
Then the owners of these names displays boiled Angels
And they want them to know these characters

This is an oddity of the Koran that merit study
So we know the source of this legend and this education
 
Old 07-25-2016, 01:41 AM
 
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mahasn sawresho,

The more you post about the verses of the Qur'an the more you expose your ignorance about the Qur'an.

When God decided to create His Khalif (not successor but vicegerent/caliph/khalif) on earth, the angels were aware of the blood being shed on earth because of the other earthly creatures on earth existing already. This is how they knew that man too would be an earthly creature having blood as in other earthly creatures.

Now feel free to carry on talking to yourself, as usual.
 
Old 07-25-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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mahasn sawresho,

The more you post about the verses of the Qur'an the more you expose your ignorance about the Qur'an.

When God decided to create His Khalif (not successor but vicegerent/caliph/khalif) on earth,
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the angels were aware of the blood being shed on earth because of the other earthly creatures on earth existing already.
Go down, [all of you], as enemies to one another, ===This talk of Sura
It is that they will come down to earth and the enmity between them
And hostility can also be a combat
Do you notice the correlation between this verse
And the state of the dialogue between the angels and God
This is how they knew that man too would be an earthly creature having blood as in other earthly creatures.

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Now feel free to carry on talking to yourself, as usual.
That's right
Because I want to know whether the water came down from heaven
Or is the creation of the earth, from the beginning of the universe
As the Quran says
Did the water come down from heaven
Or rain

Does God and also owned the advisory board of the angels
Consulted on its
This is the concept of these verses
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