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Old 07-16-2016, 02:22 AM
 
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I have read a few articles re the OP on the topic of Quranic Arabic versus MSA, here is one interesting view;

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Classical Arabic vs. (Modern) Standard Arabic


Many wonder about the difference between Classical Arabic and Standard Arabic.

In short, Classical Arabic is a “descriptive” term of the language used by the Arabs of the Arabian Peninsula (excluding South Arabia) around the dawn of Islam.

Standard Arabic is a “prescriptive” term of the language which ancient Arab grammarians considered “Classical”.

While Modern Standard Arabic is a “descriptive” term of the realisation of Standard Arabic by modern day Arabs!

Such realisation depends heavily on the dialectal background, level of education and mastery of the prescriptive grammar of Standard Arabic. It’s no secret that many Arabs today, struggle with the inflections of Standard Arabic (because modern colloquial Arabic lacks inflections for the most part), many of them just opt to drop it, speaking in a pausal type of Standard Arabic, while some are quite masterful when it comes to the inflections, but are quite rare. That is why one would find such statements along the lines of “Modern Standard Arabic isn’t inflected, or uses inflections haphazardly”, which isn’t true, even from a descriptive point of view.

What complicates the matter is that many would get the impression that Modern Standard Arabic is the language which naturally developed from Standard Arabic, or even Classical Arabic.

Modern Standard Arabic, from a naming point of view, is a misnomer!
There isn’t/wasn’t a modern standardization of the Arabic language. Nor did it develop from (an older) Standard Arabic. Another common misconception is that: Modern Standard Arabic = Standard Arabic + modern register of vocabulary (of innovated or borrowed words for items Arabs didn’t have)!!

You see, “Classical” here is more a function of time, rather than form or style (quite contrary to what ancient Arab grammarians would view as fusha فصحى). That’s why to Arabs, only familiar to the Arab use of fusha فصحى, there is no difference between Classical Arabic and Standard Arabic.

Certainly, the terms Classical Arabic & Standard Arabic are western (linguistic) terms describing this ancient descriptive/prescriptive divide, many fall into the idea that the difference is in form, grammar and style. While in reality, Standard Arabic is the (ancient) attempt to preserve and saveguard the form, grammar and style of “Classical Arabic”.

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Since I am a newbie to Arabic I am not in a position to say much on the differences.
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Old 07-16-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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I find the differences to primarily be pronunciation pus the fact that Qur'anic Arabic is restricted to only the words contained in the Qur'an. It is a very small vocabulary derived from less than 2,000 root words. But it needs to be remembered Arabic words often have numerous different meanings, dependent upon the words that come immediately before and after it, along with the content of the discourse.
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Old 07-16-2016, 05:52 PM
 
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I have read a few articles re the OP on the topic of Quranic Arabic versus MSA, here is one interesting view;


Since I am a newbie to Arabic I am not in a position to say much on the differences.
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Arabic eloquence
Arabic language is written in the Koran
It is a dialect of the Arabian Peninsula before Islam
And the rules of the Arabic language steady
But the modern dialects
They are not fluent
Because the style of the original culture in each country
In Egypt are Egyptian dialect
Western style with words and a Coptic Pharaonic
In Iraq, Lebanon and Syria
Be style Laramie and Syriac and Chaldean and Assyrian
But in Morocco
Is the Arabic
But in Morocco
Is an Arab-style Amazigh Berber and French
Sudan is an Arab-style language of the Nubians
But the official language in all the Arab countries are eloquent Koranic
TV stations
studying
Colleges
Local dialects are not Mknubh
Because he had been writing these dialects and recognition will become the Arab news was a past act
Shatter invite Koran
Because he will not understand, but firmly grounded in science
This would be a disaster reality
History is moving in this direction
It is the spread of dialects on eloquence Computing Language
There are claims in writing, as happens now in Egypt
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